another issue with PDF bookmarks

another issue with PDF bookmarks

[Pablo Rodriguez]

Dear list,

I have a sample that shows an issue with PDF bookmarks:

    \setupinteraction[state=start]
    \placebookmarks[chapter]
    \setupheadertexts[chapter]
    \starttext
    \completecontent

    \chapter{Footnote\footnote{Only in bookmarks}}

    \stoptext

Sorry, but I don’t know why the footnote is removed in the table of
contents and in the header, but it isn‘t in the bookmark.

Am I missing something?

Many thanks for your help,


Pablo
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Re: another issue with PDF bookmarks

[Andreas Schneider]

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On 08.04.2014 16:20, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
> Dear list,
>
> I have a sample that shows an issue with PDF bookmarks:
>
>     \setupinteraction[state=start]
>     \placebookmarks[chapter]
>     \setupheadertexts[chapter]
>     \starttext
>     \completecontent
>
>     \chapter{Footnote\footnote{Only in bookmarks}}
>
>     \stoptext
>
> Sorry, but I don’t know why the footnote is removed in the table of
> contents and in the header, but it isn‘t in the bookmark.
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> Many thanks for your help,
>
>
> Pablo
That probably has to do with expansion (a detailed explanation may be
given by a (Con)TeX(t) Guru :-)).

I think the best "fix" is to use the MkIV title mechanism (start... stop...)
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles#New_MkIV_Sectioning

That way you can do:
\startchapter[title={Footnote\footnote{Only where appropriate}},
bookmark={No Footnote}]
...
\stopchapter

-- 
Best Regards,
Andreas


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Re: another issue with PDF bookmarks

[Pablo Rodriguez]

On 04/09/2014 08:29 PM, Andreas Schneider wrote:
> On 08.04.2014 16:20, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>> I have a sample that shows an issue with PDF bookmarks:
>> [...]
>> Sorry, but I don’t know why the footnote is removed in the table of
>> contents and in the header, but it isn‘t in the bookmark.
>
> That probably has to do with expansion (a detailed explanation may be
> given by a (Con)TeX(t) Guru :-)).
> 
> I think the best "fix" is to use the MkIV title mechanism (start... stop...)
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles#New_MkIV_Sectioning
> 
> That way you can do:
> \startchapter[title={Footnote\footnote{Only where appropriate}},
> bookmark={No Footnote}]
> ...
> \stopchapter

Many thanks for your reply, Andreas.

This is a way to avoid the problem.
F
rom the user’s perspective, I cannot see the reason why \footnote isn’t
removed from the PDF bookmark automatically. It makes the same sense as
in headers and ToC.

Sorry, but I’m trying to explain ConTeXt to others. And I have a hard
time when I cannot see the reason for what can be seen as glitches.

Many thanks for your help,


Pablo
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Re: another issue with PDF bookmarks

[Aditya Mahajan]

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On Wed, 9 Apr 2014, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:

> On 04/09/2014 08:29 PM, Andreas Schneider wrote:
>> On 08.04.2014 16:20, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>>> I have a sample that shows an issue with PDF bookmarks:
>>> [...]
>>> Sorry, but I don’t know why the footnote is removed in the table of
>>> contents and in the header, but it isn‘t in the bookmark.
>>
>> That probably has to do with expansion (a detailed explanation may be
>> given by a (Con)TeX(t) Guru :-)).
>>
>> I think the best "fix" is to use the MkIV title mechanism (start... stop...)
>> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles#New_MkIV_Sectioning
>>
>> That way you can do:
>> \startchapter[title={Footnote\footnote{Only where appropriate}},
>> bookmark={No Footnote}]
>> ...
>> \stopchapter
>
> Many thanks for your reply, Andreas.
>
> This is a way to avoid the problem.
> F
> rom the user’s perspective, I cannot see the reason why \footnote isn’t
> removed from the PDF bookmark automatically. It makes the same sense as
> in headers and ToC.

One possibility is to add:

\appendtoks \let\footnote \gobbleoneargument \to \everysimplifycommands

to your style.

Perhaps this should be added to the definition of definenote.

Aditya

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Re: another issue with PDF bookmarks

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Wed, 9 Apr 2014, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

> One possibility is to add:
>
> \appendtoks \let\footnote \gobbleoneargument \to \everysimplifycommands
>
> to your style.
>
> Perhaps this should be added to the definition of definenote.

Hmm... simplifycommands needs an overhaul:

From typo-del.mkiv:

\appendtoks
     \def\quotation#1{"#1"}%
     \def\quote    #1{'#1'}%
\to \everysimplifycommands

and from buff-ver.mkiv:

\appendtoks
     \def\type#1{\letterbackslash\checkedstrippedcsname#1}% or maybe 
detokenize
     \def\tex #1{\letterbackslash#1}%
\to \everysimplifycommands


The simplification of \type assumes that a user will always use 
\type{\command} and gives the wrong result for \type{text} and fails for 
\type{text\undefined}.

The simplification of \quote and \quotation should not be hardcoded, but 
rather be a part of \definedelimitedtext.

Apart from notes and delimited text, are there other commands that need to 
be simplified for bookmarks, etc?

Aditya

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Re: another issue with PDF bookmarks

[Pablo Rodriguez]

On 04/09/2014 09:33 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Apr 2014, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> 
>> One possibility is to add:
>>
>> \appendtoks \let\footnote \gobbleoneargument \to \everysimplifycommands
>>
>> to your style.
>>
>> Perhaps this should be added to the definition of definenote.
> 
> Hmm... simplifycommands needs an overhaul:
> 
>>From typo-del.mkiv:
> 
> \appendtoks
>      \def\quotation#1{"#1"}%
>      \def\quote    #1{'#1'}%
> \to \everysimplifycommands
> 
> and from buff-ver.mkiv:
> 
> \appendtoks
>      \def\type#1{\letterbackslash\checkedstrippedcsname#1}% or maybe 
> detokenize
>      \def\tex #1{\letterbackslash#1}%
> \to \everysimplifycommands
> 
> 
> The simplification of \type assumes that a user will always use 
> \type{\command} and gives the wrong result for \type{text} and fails for 
> \type{text\undefined}.
> 
> The simplification of \quote and \quotation should not be hardcoded, but 
> rather be a part of \definedelimitedtext.
> 
> Apart from notes and delimited text, are there other commands that need to 
> be simplified for bookmarks, etc?

Many thanks for your reply, Aditya.

If I don’t get it wrong, I guess all language and style commands should
be ignored. And all braces, when not explicitly invoked (such as in \{).

But this only would affect to PDF bookmarks.

Many thanks again,


Pablo
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Re: another issue with PDF bookmarks

[Hans Hagen]

On 4/9/2014 9:33 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Apr 2014, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
>
>> One possibility is to add:
>>
>> \appendtoks \let\footnote \gobbleoneargument \to \everysimplifycommands
>>
>> to your style.
>>
>> Perhaps this should be added to the definition of definenote.
>
> Hmm... simplifycommands needs an overhaul:
>
>  From typo-del.mkiv:
>
> \appendtoks
>      \def\quotation#1{"#1"}%
>      \def\quote    #1{'#1'}%
> \to \everysimplifycommands
>
> and from buff-ver.mkiv:
>
> \appendtoks
>      \def\type#1{\letterbackslash\checkedstrippedcsname#1}% or maybe
> detokenize
>      \def\tex #1{\letterbackslash#1}%
> \to \everysimplifycommands
>
>
> The simplification of \type assumes that a user will always use
> \type{\command} and gives the wrong result for \type{text} and fails for
> \type{text\undefined}.
>
> The simplification of \quote and \quotation should not be hardcoded, but
> rather be a part of \definedelimitedtext.
>
> Apart from notes and delimited text, are there other commands that need
> to be simplified for bookmarks, etc?

this kind of things are always tricky ... simplify vs ignore and so

there is an experimental option:

\enabledirectives[references.bookmarks.preroll]

which also work to some extend with math:

$\sqrt{123}$

i've made that one also ignore notes (beta coming)

concerning the undefined commands (\command) ... ad \let\command\relax 
to the preamble then ... there is no way we can predict all that and 
we're in a different catcode regime at that point

Hans



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