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[77.191.141.217]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id m4sm7919194eeu.15.2013.05.06.08.06.08 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 06 May 2013 08:06:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5187B662.5040403@mmnetz.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.8732 (Score 2, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=2a00:1450:4013:c01::235; country=IE X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0WJwD69td - 859f7b1a56a0 - 20130506 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:82342 Archived-At: --===============0406854472== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_237EBFD8-7B34-4264-8B79-9225A189078C" --Apple-Mail=_237EBFD8-7B34-4264-8B79-9225A189078C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Am 06.05.2013 um 15:55 schrieb H. =D6zoguz : >> > Hi, >> >=20 >> > I use a vertical line (realized as a layer) for a bilingual = project. My question is: >> > 1. How can I set this line on all pages? >>=20 >> When this is the text where you place both columns with a table you = can just enable the rule between both columns. >=20 > Thanks Wolfgang! >=20 > The reason for the use of the layer is the following: If I use frames = of the natural table, then I have this: >=20 > \def\arde[#1][#2]{% > \bTABLE > \setupTABLE[frame=3Doff] > \setupTABLE[c][1][rightframe=3Don] > \bTR=20 > \bTD #1 \eTD > \bTD #2 \eTD=20 > \eTR > \eTABLE} > \setuptolerance[tolerant,stretch] > \starttext > \arde[\input knuth][\input knuth] > \arde[\input knuth][\input knuth] > \stoptext >=20 > There you can see the problem, you have to zoom into the pdf: Between = the two tables, there is a tiny tiny (!) space betweeen the vertical = lines. Its not a big issue, but it is there. The space is inserted by TeX when characters in different lines are = touching. You can avoid this when you put everything in a single table. You should = also avoid to use brackets as delimiters for text, use normal braced arguments why = can be grouped without problems. \startsetups[arde] \setupTABLE[c][1][rightframe=3Don] \stopsetups \def\startarde {\bTABLE[frame=3Doff,width=3D.5\textwidth,setups=3Darde,split=3Dyes]} \def\stoparde {\eTABLE} \define[2]\arde {\bTR \bTD#1\eTD \bTD#2\eTD=20 \eTR} \setuptolerance[tolerant,stretch] \starttext \startarde \arde{\input knuth }{\input knuth } \arde{\input knuth }{\input knuth } \stoparde \stoptext Wolfgang= --Apple-Mail=_237EBFD8-7B34-4264-8B79-9225A189078C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 h.oezoguz@mmnetz.de>:
=20 =20 
> Hi,
>=20
> I use a vertical line (realized as a layer) for a bilingual =
project. My question is:
> 1. How can I set this line on all pages?

When this is the text where you place both columns with a table you can =
just enable the rule between both columns.

Thanks Wolfgang!

The reason for the use of the layer is the following: If I use frames of the natural table, then I have this:

\def\arde[#1][#2]{%
\bTABLE
\setupTABLE[frame=3Doff]
\setupTABLE[c][1][rightframe=3Don]
\bTR
\bTD #1 \eTD
\bTD #2 \eTD
\eTR
\eTABLE}
\setuptolerance[tolerant,stretch]
\starttext
\arde[\input knuth][\input knuth]
\arde[\input knuth][\input knuth]
\stoptext

There you can see the problem, you have to zoom into the pdf: Between the two tables, there is a tiny tiny (!) space betweeen the vertical lines. Its not a big issue, but it is = there.

The space is inserted by TeX = when characters in different lines are = touching.

You can avoid this when you put = everything in a single table. You should also avoid
to use = brackets as delimiters for text, use normal braced arguments why can = be
grouped without = problems.

\startsetups[arde]
 = ; = \setupTABLE[c][1][rightframe=3Don]
\stopsetups

\def\startarde
  = {\bTABLE[frame=3Doff,width=3D.5\textwidth,setups=3Darde,split=3Dyes]}

\def\stoparde
  = {\eTABLE}

\define[2]\arde
  = {\bTR
     \bTD#1\eTD
    =  \bTD#2\eTD 
  =  \eTR}

\setuptolerance[tolerant,stretch]

\starttext
\startarde
\arde{\inp= ut knuth }{\input knuth }
\arde{\input knuth }{\input knuth = }
\stoparde
\stoptext

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