From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/87105 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: \setupmathradical[sqrt] crunches denominator in an \over fraction Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 10:40:15 +0200 Message-ID: <5358CDEF.4050103@wxs.nl> References: <87k3aitf25.fsf@approx.mit.edu> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1398328839 26592 80.91.229.3 (24 Apr 2014 08:40:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 08:40:39 +0000 (UTC) To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Apr 24 10:40:33 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([5.39.185.229]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WdFCq-0007iH-Je for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Apr 2014 10:40:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2462C1027F for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2014 10:40:32 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id N7CVrBu89zoQ for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2014 10:40:32 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69A9410253 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2014 10:40:27 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF514101E8 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2014 10:40:23 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id VZNFJLO9wJFE for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2014 10:40:22 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter4-ams.mf.surf.net (filter4-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.72]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04198101E6 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2014 10:40:16 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from smtp.ziggozakelijk.nl (D57D1DA2.static.ziggozakelijk.nl [213.125.29.162]) by filter4-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id s3O90WcO023202 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2014 11:00:32 +0200 X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=loggedin (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=10.100.1.103; Original-Received: from [10.100.1.103] (unverified [10.100.1.103]) by pragma-net.nl (SurgeMail 6.5a2) with ESMTP id 2105-1713362 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2014 10:40:14 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 In-Reply-To: <87k3aitf25.fsf@approx.mit.edu> X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-9 X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: ntg-context@ntg.nl, base:default, @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=213.125.29.162; country=NL; region=Provincie Overijssel; city=Zwolle; latitude=52.5058; longitude=6.0858; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.5058,6.0858&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 01LRJ0wVm - 1594ee827d82 - 20140424 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.87.102.72 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:87105 Archived-At: On 4/22/2014 1:53 AM, Sanjoy Mahajan wrote: > I have been trying out the newish > \setupmathradical[sqrt][alternative=mp], which has been very nice > because of the fine control over the radical sign. > > I've noticed that it crunches the denominator in \sqrt{a\over b} > For example: > > \starttext > \placeformula\startformula > \sqrt{k\over m}\quad \sqrt{\displaystyle{k\over m}} > \stopformula > > \setupmathradical[sqrt][alternative=mp] > > \placeformula\startformula > \sqrt{k\over m}\quad \sqrt{\displaystyle{k\over m}} > \stopformula > > \stoptext > > In the first line, the fractions come out fine. In the second line, the > first k\over m has a small, inline-math m in the denominator but a > display-math k in the numerator. The second sqrt is fine. > > Is the problem that my plain-TeX habits, from decades using \over, > should be over, and that \frac is the recommended way? indeed. this is what (sort of) happens in case of a plugged in renderer: \sqrt{#1} -> ...\mathstylehbox{#1}... -> ...\hbox{\stylecommand #1}... when #a = a \over b the style gets applied to the a only as \over creates two (pseudo) groups i.e. the \over isolates a and b > \sqrt{{k\over m}}\quad \sqrt{\displaystyle{k\over m}} would work ok Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________