From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/87266 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: \pm set too low in MkIV? 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Tue, 6 May 2014 21:08:23 +0200 X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=loggedin (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=10.100.1.104; Original-Received: from [10.100.1.104] (unverified [10.100.1.104]) by pragma-net.nl (SurgeMail 6.5a2) with ESMTP id 678-1713362 for ; Tue, 06 May 2014 21:08:15 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 In-Reply-To: <5BDBF115-CAED-4423-8F67-4F66B43F0AA4@gmail.com> X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-9 X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: ntg-context@ntg.nl, base:default, @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=213.125.29.162; country=NL; region=Provincie Overijssel; city=Zwolle; latitude=52.5058; longitude=6.0858; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.5058,6.0858&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0QLWH8hce - 4689b43a3abf - 20140506 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.87.102.70 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:87266 Archived-At: On 5/6/2014 8:28 PM, Otared Kavian wrote: > Hi Hans, > > Thanks for your attention to the issue pointed out by Sanjoy. > > On 6 mai 2014, at 20:14, Hans Hagen > wrote: >> [=85] >> all minus' are below the baseline so consider it a feature > > Yes this is the case in recent versions of mkiv, but in Plain TeX and > mkii this is not the case: there the minus sign in \pm is aligned with > the baseline. > > I agree with Sanjoy and Mikael to say that it the minus sign in \pm > should be aligned with the baseline: however I don=92t know if this can be > easily achieved. so how about \mp then ... \starttext $x \pm 2 + \mp x + a $\par \switchtobodyfont[pagella] $x \pm 2 + \mp x + a $\par \switchtobodyfont[termes] $x \pm 2 + \mp x + a $\par \switchtobodyfont[cambria] $x \pm 2 + \mp x + a $\par \switchtobodyfont[bonum] $x \pm 2 + \mp x + a $\par \switchtobodyfont[schola] $x \pm 2 + \mp x + a $\par \stoptext the + aligns on the math axis so one can argue if the type-one variant = is ok ... so we would need a smaller (less height) + then which would = look visually weird (all can be achieved ... but the idea of lm/gyre fonts is to provide an = acceptable consistent set ... at some point we can think of variants - = or maybe the fonts have a variant already) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________= ________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-cont= ext webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________= ________