From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/88058 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: example of better linebreak with 2014.05.17 compared to 2014.07.07 Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 13:03:41 +0200 Message-ID: <53BE730D.8020303@wxs.nl> References: <87simaddel.fsf@approx.mit.edu> <53BD4786.6010000@wxs.nl> <87wqblap5i.fsf@approx.mit.edu> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1404990258 32498 80.91.229.3 (10 Jul 2014 11:04:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 11:04:18 +0000 (UTC) To: Sanjoy Mahajan , mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Jul 10 13:04:11 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([5.39.185.229]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1X5C92-0004ti-UX for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 13:04:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5416C102D3 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 13:04:08 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 32RnkkwaoCmk for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 13:04:08 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 382F510234 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 13:04:00 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27AEF101EC for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 13:03:57 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Wz7ps3AB09PH for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 13:03:51 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter3-til.mf.surf.net (filter3-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.219]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC7F7101EA for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 13:03:46 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from smtp.ziggozakelijk.nl (D57D1DA2.static.ziggozakelijk.nl [213.125.29.162]) by filter3-til.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id s6AB3jwg004482 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 13:03:45 +0200 X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=loggedin (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=10.100.1.103; Original-Received: from [10.100.1.103] (unverified [10.100.1.103]) by pragma-net.nl (SurgeMail 6.5a2) with ESMTP id 10251-1713362 for multiple; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 13:03:43 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 In-Reply-To: <87wqblap5i.fsf@approx.mit.edu> X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-9 X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: ntg-context@ntg.nl, base:default, @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=213.125.29.162; country=NL; region=Provincie Overijssel; city=Zwolle; latitude=52.5058; longitude=6.0858; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.5058,6.0858&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 06Moz3J68 - 7d8aefccad1a - 20140710 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.219 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:88058 Archived-At: On 7/10/2014 5:06 AM, Sanjoy Mahajan wrote: > Hans Hagen writes: > >> it can happen if patterns or fonts changed ...so, best make two small >> test files and we can look into it with tracing > > There's just one test file for both (see below). I think I verified > that the texgyrepagella font is the same in both context minimals. But > maybe the hyphenation patterns did change. > >> how does the tex file look > > I made the following minimal example (same for both versions): > > \setupbodyfont[palatino] > \showframe > \setuplayout[width=5.4286in] > > \starttext > > Let's see whether this estimate is reasonable. According to the > plane's technical documentation, the 747-400's four engines together > can provide roughly 1~meganewton of thrust. > > \stoptext fyi: \setupbackend[space=yes] can help you around the wrong threshold for spaces in your viewer. \setuptolerance[tolerant] makes the paragraph look better ... i'm not sure what makes the difference in file BT /F1 11.955168 Tf 1 0 0 1 263.3079 760.2084 Tm [<0053>]TJ 1 0 0 1 70.867 702.3845 Tm [<00480033006A02150063>-404<006300330033>-405<007300400033006A>-15<004000330061>-405<006A>-15<004000430063>-405<00330063>14<006A0043004C001D006A0033>-403<00430063>-405<00610033001D00630052004E001D0024004900330059>-798<001C>34<002C002C00520061>15<00300043004E003C>-404<006A>9<0052>-404<006A>-15<00400033>-404<00550049001D004E003302150063>]TJ 1 0 0 1 70.867 687.3545 Tm [<006A0033002C0040004E0043002C001D0049>-302<00300052002C006E004C0033004E006A001D006A00430052004E002E>-315<006A>-15<00400033>-302<0065003A00650041003A007A007A02150063>-302<0038>14<0052006E0061>-302<0033004E003C0043004E00330063>-302<006A>9<0052003C>20<0033006A>-14<004000330061>-302<002C001D004E>-302<005500610052>24<0071004300300033>]TJ 1 0 0 1 70.867 672.3244 Tm [<00610052006E003C00400049>25<0077>-250<0053>-250<004C0033003C>15<001D004E0033>10<0073006A>10<0052004E>-250<00520038>-250<006A>-15<00400061>-10<006E0063>15<006A0059>]TJ ET BT /F1 11.955168 Tf 1 0 0 1 263.3079 760.2084 Tm [<0053>]TJ 1 0 0 1 70.867 702.3845 Tm [<00480033006A0215>25<0063>-201<006300330033>-201<007300400033006A>-15<004000330061>-200<006A>-15<004000430063>-201<00330063>14<006A0043004C001D006A0033>-200<00430063>-201<00610033001D00630052004E001D0024004900330059>-317<001C>34<002C002C00520061>15<00300043004E003C>-200<006A>9<0052>-200<006A>-15<00400033>-201<00550049001D004E00330215>24<0063>-200<006A0033002C00400041>]TJ 1 0 0 1 70.867 687.3545 Tm [<004E0043002C001D0049>-166<00300052002C006E004C0033004E006A001D006A00430052004E002E>-184<006A>-15<00400033>-166<0065003A00650041003A007A007A0215>24<0063>-166<0038>14<0052006E0061>-166<0033004E003C0043004E00330063>-166<006A>9<0052003C>20<0033006A>-14<004000330061>-167<002C001D004E>-167<005500610052>25<0071004300300033>-166<00610052006E003C00400049>24<0077>]TJ 1 0 0 1 70.867 672.3244 Tm [<0053>-250<004C0033003C>15<001D004E0033>10<0073006A>10<0052004E>-250<00520038>-250<006A>-15<00400061>-10<006E0063>15<006A0059>]TJ ET looks like a difference in font (kerning) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________