From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/88172 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rik Kabel Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Figure whitespace overflows page Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 16:33:11 -0400 Message-ID: <53CC2787.6080306@rik.users.panix.com> References: <53336449.1060206@rik.users.panix.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0667088480==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1405888421 17208 80.91.229.3 (20 Jul 2014 20:33:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 20:33:41 +0000 (UTC) To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sun Jul 20 22:33:37 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([5.39.185.229]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1X8xna-000387-AQ for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 22:33:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0ED710219 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 22:33:33 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id TRcb8JgdWDad for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 22:33:33 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 001E210223 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 22:33:24 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37B76101E6 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 22:33:22 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Afvbl-VyPXQc for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 22:33:18 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter2-ams.mf.surf.net (filter2-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.70]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AC3B101E1 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 22:33:18 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) by filter2-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id s6KKXGIO029590 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 22:33:17 +0200 Original-Received: from [192.168.201.10] (cpe-67-240-55-150.nycap.res.rr.com [67.240.55.150]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 200692E5CD for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 16:33:16 -0400 (EDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 In-Reply-To: <53336449.1060206@rik.users.panix.com> X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: ntg-context@ntg.nl, base:default, @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=166.84.1.89; country=US; region=New York; city=Richmond Hill; latitude=40.7005; longitude=-73.8345; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=40.7005,-73.8345&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0QMsIxhST - ffc9f3372b1d - 20140720 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.87.102.70 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:88172 Archived-At: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0667088480== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040803010306000600060000" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040803010306000600060000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 2014-03-26 19:35, Rik Kabel wrote, originally with the subject "Caption whitespace overflows page": > How can I get rid of the space at the top of the first line of text on > page three in the following MWE. The \setupfloats[spaceafter=none] > masks the problem rather than addresses the problem directly. Playing > with the size of the figures (changing them to 3cm) shows that the > caption text is not pushed to the second page, just some whitespace > imputed to them. This happens with TL2013 and with the latest > (20140325) standalone beta. > > I may be able to get away with the figure overflowing into the > footnote space by avoiding footnotes, but the space on the next page > is just ugly. > > \setuppapersize[A6] > \setupexternalfigures[location={local,default}] > \setupfloats[spaceafter=none] > \starttext > \input{knuth} > \placefigure[left]{Caption} > {\startcombination[1*3] > {\externalfigure[cow.pdf][height=2cm]}{cow} > {\externalfigure[cow.pdf][height=2cm]}{cow} > {\externalfigure[cow.pdf][height=2cm]}{cow} > \stopcombination} > \input{knuth} > > \input{knuth} > \stoptext > Can anyone suggest a fix for this, or declare that there is nothing that can be done except to change the page content? It is still a problem. The problem is not with caption space /per se/, but with the space taken for the figure as a whole. I would think that, once the page with the figure is finalized, additional reserved whitespace below it can be discarded. I did notice that it was also raised without apparent resolution in March 2007 (http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context%40ntg.nl/msg21269.html). -- Rik Kabel --------------040803010306000600060000 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 2014-03-26 19:35, Rik Kabel wrote, originally with the subject "Caption whitespace overflows page":
How can I get rid of the space at the top of the first line of text on page three in the following MWE. The \setupfloats[spaceafter=none] masks the problem rather than addresses the problem directly. Playing with the size of the figures (changing them to 3cm) shows that the  caption text is not pushed to the second page, just some whitespace imputed to them. This happens with TL2013 and with the latest (20140325) standalone beta.

I may be able to get away with the figure overflowing into the footnote space by avoiding footnotes, but the space on the next page is just ugly.

\setuppapersize[A6]
\setupexternalfigures[location={local,default}]
\setupfloats[spaceafter=none]
\starttext
\input{knuth}
\placefigure[left]{Caption}
  {\startcombination[1*3]
    {\externalfigure[cow.pdf][height=2cm]}{cow}
    {\externalfigure[cow.pdf][height=2cm]}{cow}
    {\externalfigure[cow.pdf][height=2cm]}{cow}
  \stopcombination}
\input{knuth}

\input{knuth}
\stoptext

Can anyone suggest a fix for this, or declare that there is nothing that can be done except to change the page content? It is still a problem.

The problem is not with caption space per se, but with the space taken for the figure as a whole. I would think that, once the page with the figure is finalized, additional reserved whitespace below it can be discarded.

I did notice that it was also raised without apparent resolution in March 2007 (http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context%40ntg.nl/msg21269.html).

--
Rik Kabel
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