bug in hyphenation?

bug in hyphenation?

[Pablo Rodriguez]

Dear list,

the following sample shows bad hyphenation in the first body line and in
many linenotes:

\showframe
\definepapersize[HippPaper][width=6in, height=9in]
\setuppapersize[HippPaper]
\setupnote[linenote][rule=off, paragraph=yes, split=verystrict,
scope=text, inbetween=\hskip1.5em, compress=yes]
\setupnotation[linenote][numbercommand=, width=broad,
alternative=serried, distance=1em]

\starttext
\startlinenumbering
\showhyphens{testing paragraph}
\dorecurse{50}{This\linenote{That} is\linenote{was} a\linenote{one}
testing\linenote{nesting} sentence\linenote{table}. }
\stoplinenumbering
\stoptext

If this is not a bug, what am I missing here?

Many thanks for your help,


Pablo
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Re: bug in hyphenation?

[Hans Hagen]

On 8/30/2014 6:47 AM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
> Dear list,
>
> the following sample shows bad hyphenation in the first body line and in
> many linenotes:
>
> \showframe
> \definepapersize[HippPaper][width=6in, height=9in]
> \setuppapersize[HippPaper]
> \setupnote[linenote][rule=off, paragraph=yes, split=verystrict,
> scope=text, inbetween=\hskip1.5em, compress=yes]
> \setupnotation[linenote][numbercommand=, width=broad,
> alternative=serried, distance=1em]
>
> \starttext
> \startlinenumbering
> \showhyphens{testing paragraph}
> \dorecurse{50}{This\linenote{That} is\linenote{was} a\linenote{one}
> testing\linenote{nesting} sentence\linenote{table}. }
> \stoplinenumbering
> \stoptext
>
> If this is not a bug, what am I missing here?
>
> Many thanks for your help,

more a side effect of binding a reference node and such ... possible 
solution in next beta

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Re: bug in hyphenation?

[Pablo Rodriguez]

On 08/30/2014 12:00 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 8/30/2014 6:47 AM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>> Dear list,
>>
>> the following sample shows bad hyphenation in the first body line and in
>> many linenotes:
>> [...]
>> If this is not a bug, what am I missing here?
> 
> more a side effect of binding a reference node and such ... possible 
> solution in next beta

Many thanks for your help, Hans.


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Re: bug in hyphenation?

[Pablo Rodriguez]

On 08/30/2014 12:00 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 8/30/2014 6:47 AM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>> Dear list,
>>
>> the following sample shows bad hyphenation in the first body line and in
>> many linenotes:
>>
>> \showframe
>> \definepapersize[HippPaper][width=6in, height=9in]
>> \setuppapersize[HippPaper]
>> \setupnote[linenote][rule=off, paragraph=yes, split=verystrict,
>> scope=text, inbetween=\hskip1.5em, compress=yes]
>> \setupnotation[linenote][numbercommand=, width=broad,
>> alternative=serried, distance=1em]
>>
>> \starttext
>> \startlinenumbering
>> \showhyphens{testing paragraph}
>> \dorecurse{50}{This\linenote{That} is\linenote{was} a\linenote{one}
>> testing\linenote{nesting} sentence\linenote{table}. }
>> \stoplinenumbering
>> \stoptext
>>
>> If this is not a bug, what am I missing here?
>>
>> Many thanks for your help,
> 
> more a side effect of binding a reference node and such ... possible 
> solution in next beta

Hans,

I’m afraid that beta from today has still this bug.


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Re: bug in hyphenation?

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

So your problem has nothing to do with Greek hyphenation, it’s about the way you define your \CritApp command. You could have shown the same problem with an English text. It appears that injecting the word via your macro breaks hyphenation, but I assume Hans and Wolfgang  will know better about that. Example without Greek:

\showframe
\mainlanguage[en]
\setuplanguage[en][patterns={en, agr}]
\definepapersize[HippPaper][width=6in, height=9in]
\setuppapersize[HippPaper]

\definefontfamily[mainface][serif][FreeSerif]
\setupbodyfont[mainface, 13pt]

\unexpanded\def\doCritApp#1#2#3%
  {\startlinenote[#1]{#2 #3}#2\stoplinenote[#1]}

\newcounter\MyCounter
\unexpanded\def\CritApp
  {\doglobal\increment\MyCounter
   \normalexpanded{\doCritApp{Varia:\MyCounter}}}

\starttext
supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
\CritApp{supercalifragilisticexpialidocious}{test}
\stoptext


On 18 Sep 2014, at 08:33, Pablo Rodriguez <oinos@gmx.es> wrote:

> Many thanks for the reply, Thomas.
> 
> My sample is the following:
> 
> \showframe
> \mainlanguage[en]
> \setuplanguage[en][patterns={en, agr}]
> \definepapersize[HippPaper][width=6in, height=9in]
> \setuppapersize[HippPaper]
> 
> \definefontfamily[mainface][serif][FreeSerif]
> \setupbodyfont[mainface, 13pt]
> 
> \unexpanded\def\doCritApp#1#2#3%
>   {\startlinenote[#1]{#2 #3}#2\stoplinenote[#1]}
> 
> \newcounter\MyCounter
> \unexpanded\def\CritApp
>   {\doglobal\increment\MyCounter
>    \normalexpanded{\doCritApp{Varia:\MyCounter}}}
> 
> %~ \def\CritApp#1#2{#1}
> 
> \starttext
> με τὴν τέχνην ταύτην \CritApp{ἴσα}{neut. pl. acc. adverbial, “equally
> to” + dat.} γενέτῃσιν ἐμοῖς, καὶ βίου \CritApp{κοινώσεσθαι}{fut. inf.
> with ὄμνυμι “to be a partner of” + gen.}
> \stoptext
> 
> After reading again the message that gave me the macro, hyphenation
> seems to be an unsolved issue with that command.
> 
> Many tganks for your help,

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Re: bug in hyphenation?

[Pablo Rodriguez]

On 09/18/2014 05:55 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> On 17 Sep 2014, at 10:03, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>> Hyphenation points for this word are: κοι[-||]νώ[-||]σε[-||]σθαι.
>>
>> Sorry, but I think that the bug is clear, but I don’t know how to
>> provide a minimal sample.
>>
>> Many thanks for your help,
> 
> Why is it difficult to provide a minimal example? I have this:
> [...] 
> Which gives me the attached output - with the expected hyphenation.
> So this is not a bug, but something is wrong in your document. And we
> won’t be able to say what unless you provide a minimal example.

Many thanks for the reply, Thomas.

My sample is the following:

\showframe
\mainlanguage[en]
\setuplanguage[en][patterns={en, agr}]
\definepapersize[HippPaper][width=6in, height=9in]
\setuppapersize[HippPaper]

\definefontfamily[mainface][serif][FreeSerif]
\setupbodyfont[mainface, 13pt]

\unexpanded\def\doCritApp#1#2#3%
   {\startlinenote[#1]{#2 #3}#2\stoplinenote[#1]}

\newcounter\MyCounter
\unexpanded\def\CritApp
   {\doglobal\increment\MyCounter
    \normalexpanded{\doCritApp{Varia:\MyCounter}}}

%~ \def\CritApp#1#2{#1}

\starttext
με τὴν τέχνην ταύτην \CritApp{ἴσα}{neut. pl. acc. adverbial, “equally
to” + dat.} γενέτῃσιν ἐμοῖς, καὶ βίου \CritApp{κοινώσεσθαι}{fut. inf.
with ὄμνυμι “to be a partner of” + gen.}
\stoptext

After reading again the message that gave me the macro, hyphenation
seems to be an unsolved issue with that command.

Many tganks for your help,


Pablo
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Re: bug in hyphenation?

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

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On 17 Sep 2014, at 10:03, Pablo Rodriguez <oinos@gmx.es> wrote:

> I found a bug in a Greek edition of the Hippocratic oath I’m trying to
> typeset. Last line from the first page
> http://www.ousia.tk/hippocratic-oath.pdf.
> 
> Hyphenation points for this word are: κοι[-||]νώ[-||]σε[-||]σθαι.
> 
> Sorry, but I think that the bug is clear, but I don’t know how to
> provide a minimal sample.
> 
> Many thanks for your help,

Why is it difficult to provide a minimal example? I have this:

\definepapersize [test] [width=5.7in,height=4in]

\setuppapersize [test] [test]

\mainlanguage [agr]

\definefontfamily [test] [serif] [Free Serif]

\setupbodyfont [test,12pt]

\starttext

\strut \hskip1em Ἀπόλλωνα ἰητρὸν καὶ Ἀσκληπιὸν, καὶ Ὑγείαν καὶ Πανάκειαν
καὶ θεοὺς πάντας τε καὶ πάσας, ἵστορας ποιεύμενος, ἐπιτελέα ποιήσειν κατὰ
δύναμιν καὶ κρίσιν ἐμὴν ὅρκον τόνδε καὶ συγγραφὴν τήνδε· ἡγήσεσθαι μὲν τὸν
διδάξαντά με τὴν τέχνην ταύτην ἴσα γενέτῃσιν ἐμοῖσι, καὶ βίου κοινώσεσθαι

\stoptext

Which gives me the attached output - with the expected hyphenation. So this is not a bug, but something is wrong in your document. And we won’t be able to say what unless you provide a minimal example.

Thomas


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Re: bug in hyphenation?

[Pablo Rodriguez]

Hi Thangalin,

I use \hsize\zeropoint to force ConTeXt to break lines at every
hyphenation point.

I found a bug in a Greek edition of the Hippocratic oath I’m trying to
typeset. Last line from the first page
http://www.ousia.tk/hippocratic-oath.pdf.

Hyphenation points for this word are: κοι[-||]νώ[-||]σε[-||]σθαι.

Sorry, but I think that the bug is clear, but I don’t know how to
provide a minimal sample.

Many thanks for your help,


Pablo
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Re: bug in hyphenation?

[Thangalin]

Hi Pablo,

Are you able to avoid \hsize in favour of something like start/stopnarrower?

\setuppapersize[A8]
\starttext
\startnarrower[-left]
\startlinenumbering
sentence
sentence
sentence
\stoplinenumbering
\stopnarrower

\startnarrower[-left]
sentence
sentence
sentence
\stopnarrower
\stoptext

Also, note that the first \hsize\zeropoint has no visible effect:

\setuppapersize[A8]
\starttext
\startlinenumbering
%\hsize\zeropoint
...
\stoptext
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bug in hyphenation?

[Pablo Rodriguez]

Dear list,

I have a simplified verson of the sample I submitted to the list almost
a week ago:

\setuppapersize[A8]
\starttext
\startlinenumbering
\hsize\zeropoint
sentence
sentence
sentence
\stoplinenumbering

\hsize\zeropoint
sentence
sentence
sentence
\stoptext

I’m afraid that line numbering is preventing right hyphenations.

Could anyone be so kind to confirm whether this is a bug or I am missing
something?

Many thanks for your help,


Pablo
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