enumeration with the Spanish alphabet

enumeration with the Spanish alphabet

[Pablo Rodriguez]

Hans,

enumerating using the Spanish alphabet lacks a letter between n and o,
the ñ.

Here is the small sample that shows the missing letter:

\mainlanguage[es]
\starttext
\startitemize[a]
\dorecurse{30}{\item \recurselevel}
\stopitemize
\stoptext

Instead of changing the default letter series, how about adding the ñ
(or Ñ) after n and before o (or after N and before O) in a new
enumeration series named ñ (and Ñ).

This is the correct way to enumerate with letters in Spanish (and this
is used in legislation, such as in
https://www.boe.es/buscar/act.php?id=BOE-A-1992-28741#a49).

Many thanks for your help,


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Re: enumeration with the Spanish alphabet

[Hans Hagen]

On 11/11/2014 6:40 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
> Hans,
>
> enumerating using the Spanish alphabet lacks a letter between n and o,
> the ñ.
>
> Here is the small sample that shows the missing letter:
>
> \mainlanguage[es]
> \starttext
> \startitemize[a]
> \dorecurse{30}{\item \recurselevel}
> \stopitemize
> \stoptext
>
> Instead of changing the default letter series, how about adding the ñ
> (or Ñ) after n and before o (or after N and before O) in a new
> enumeration series named ñ (and Ñ).
>
> This is the correct way to enumerate with letters in Spanish (and this
> is used in legislation, such as in
> https://www.boe.es/buscar/act.php?id=BOE-A-1992-28741#a49).
>
> Many thanks for your help,

see core-con.lua ... we can add a spanish number sequence there ... and 
also some entries in core-con.mkiv ... (look at slovenian for instance)

then send me patches

Hans



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Re: enumeration with the Spanish alphabet

[Pablo Rodriguez]

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On 11/11/2014 07:25 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 11/11/2014 6:40 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>> Hans,
>>
>> enumerating using the Spanish alphabet lacks a letter between n and o,
>> the ñ.
>> [...]
> 
> see core-con.lua ... we can add a spanish number sequence there ... and 
> also some entries in core-con.mkiv ... (look at slovenian for instance)
> 
> then send me patches

I replicated the two Slovenian ocurrences and adapted it to the Spanish
language. (I also corrected a typo.)


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--- ctxbase/core-con.lua	2014-09-10 23:13:00.000000000 +0200
+++ core-con.lua	2014-11-11 21:20:07.704095640 +0100
@@ -60,6 +60,14 @@
         0x006F, 0x0070, 0x0072, 0x0073, 0x0161,
         0x0074, 0x0075, 0x0076, 0x007A, 0x017E
     },
+    ['spanish'] = {
+        0x0061, 0x0062, 0x0063, 0x0064, 0x0065,
+        0x0066, 0x0067, 0x0068, 0x0069, 0x006A,
+        0x006B, 0x006C, 0x006D, 0x006E, 0x00F1,
+        0x006F, 0x0070, 0x0071, 0x0072, 0x0073,
+        0x0074, 0x0075, 0x0076, 0x0077, 0x0078,
+        0x0079, 0x007A
+    },
     ['greek'] = { -- this should be the lowercase table
      -- 0x0391, 0x0392, 0x0393, 0x0394, 0x0395,
      -- 0x0396, 0x0397, 0x0398, 0x0399, 0x039A,
@@ -131,6 +139,7 @@
 counters['gr']                   = counters['greek']
 counters['g']                    = counters['greek']
 counters['sl']                   = counters['slovenian']
+counters['es']                   = counters['spanish']
 counters['kr']                   = counters['korean']
 counters['kr-p']                 = counters['korean-parent']
 counters['kr-c']                 = counters['korean-circle']
@@ -893,7 +902,7 @@
       [900] = "novecientos",
      [1000] = "mil",
    [1000^2] = "millón",
-   [1000^3] = "mil millónes",
+   [1000^3] = "mil millones",
    [1000^4] = "billón",
 }
 

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Re: enumeration with the Spanish alphabet

[Hans Hagen]

On 11/11/2014 6:40 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
> Hans,
>
> enumerating using the Spanish alphabet lacks a letter between n and o,
> the ñ.
>
> Here is the small sample that shows the missing letter:
>
> \mainlanguage[es]
> \starttext
> \startitemize[a]
> \dorecurse{30}{\item \recurselevel}
> \stopitemize
> \stoptext
>
> Instead of changing the default letter series, how about adding the ñ
> (or Ñ) after n and before o (or after N and before O) in a new
> enumeration series named ñ (and Ñ).
>
> This is the correct way to enumerate with letters in Spanish (and this
> is used in legislation, such as in
> https://www.boe.es/buscar/act.php?id=BOE-A-1992-28741#a49).

in next beta

\mainlanguage[es]

\startitemize[a] % spanish conversion
     \dorecurse{30}{\item \recurselevel}
\stopitemize

\startitemize[alphabetic] % default conversioon
     \dorecurse{30}{\item \recurselevel}
\stopitemize

Hans


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Re: enumeration with the Spanish alphabet

[Pablo Rodriguez]

On 11/12/2014 01:38 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 11/11/2014 6:40 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>> [...]
>> Instead of changing the default letter series, how about adding the ñ
>> (or Ñ) after n and before o (or after N and before O) in a new
>> enumeration series named ñ (and Ñ).
> 
> in next beta

Many thanks for your fast implementation, Hans.

I’m afraid it is not implemented for bookmarks.

    \mainlanguage[es]
    \setupinteraction[state=start]
    \placebookmarks[section]
    \definestructureconversionset[sectionnumbers]
        [0,n,characters][n]
    \setupheads[sectionconversionset=sectionnumbers]
    \starttext
    \dorecurse{20}{\section{section}}
    \stoptext

Many thanks again for your help,


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Re: enumeration with the Spanish alphabet

[Hans Hagen]

On 11/12/2014 4:23 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
> On 11/12/2014 01:38 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> On 11/11/2014 6:40 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>>> [...]
>>> Instead of changing the default letter series, how about adding the ñ
>>> (or Ñ) after n and before o (or after N and before O) in a new
>>> enumeration series named ñ (and Ñ).
>>
>> in next beta
>
> Many thanks for your fast implementation, Hans.
>
> I’m afraid it is not implemented for bookmarks.
>
>      \mainlanguage[es]
>      \setupinteraction[state=start]
>      \placebookmarks[section]
>      \definestructureconversionset[sectionnumbers]
>          [0,n,characters][n]
>      \setupheads[sectionconversionset=sectionnumbers]
>      \starttext
>      \dorecurse{20}{\section{section}}
>      \stoptext

you can try spanishnumerals

> Many thanks again for your help,
>
>
> Pablo
>


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Re: enumeration with the Spanish alphabet

[Wolfgang Schuster]

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> Am 12.11.2014 um 18:18 schrieb Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:
> 
> On 11/12/2014 4:23 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>> On 11/12/2014 01:38 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>> On 11/11/2014 6:40 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>>>> [...]
>>>> Instead of changing the default letter series, how about adding the ñ
>>>> (or Ñ) after n and before o (or after N and before O) in a new
>>>> enumeration series named ñ (and Ñ).
>>> 
>>> in next beta
>> 
>> Many thanks for your fast implementation, Hans.
>> 
>> I’m afraid it is not implemented for bookmarks.
>> 
>>     \mainlanguage[es]
>>     \setupinteraction[state=start]
>>     \placebookmarks[section]
>>     \definestructureconversionset[sectionnumbers]
>>         [0,n,characters][n]
>>     \setupheads[sectionconversionset=sectionnumbers]
>>     \starttext
>>     \dorecurse{20}{\section{section}}
>>     \stoptext
> 
> you can try spanishnumerals

This won’t work unless you change (are you serious with these names)

\defineconversion [ñ]                    [\spanishnumerals]
\defineconversion [Ñ]                    [\Spanishnumerals]

to

\defineconversion [spanishnumerals]      [\spanishnumerals]
\defineconversion [Spanishnumerals]      [\Spanishnumerals]


What’s missing as well are these two definitions in core-con.miv

\def\spanishnumerals   #1{\ctxcommand{alphabetic(\number#1,"spanish")}}
\def\Spanishnumerals   #1{\ctxcommand{Alphabetic(\number#1,"spanish")}}

and the following line in core-con.la

counters['spanishnumerals']      = counters['spanish']


Wolfgang

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Re: enumeration with the Spanish alphabet

[Pablo Rodriguez]

On 11/12/2014 06:18 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 11/12/2014 4:23 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>> On 11/12/2014 01:38 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>> On 11/11/2014 6:40 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>>>> [...]
>>>> Instead of changing the default letter series, how about adding the ñ
>>>> (or Ñ) after n and before o (or after N and before O) in a new
>>>> enumeration series named ñ (and Ñ).
>>>
>>> in next beta
>>
>> I’m afraid it is not implemented for bookmarks.
> 
> you can try spanishnumerals

I don’t know whether this is related to what Wolfgang reported, but
using latest beta (2014.11.12 18:16) bookmark numbering doesn’t seem to
work at all:

    \setupinteraction[state=start]
    \definestructureconversionset[sectionnumbers]
        [R,n,a][n]
    \setupheads[sectionconversionset=sectionnumbers]
    \placebookmarks[all]
    \starttext
    \part{part}
    \chapter{chapter}
    \section{section}
    \stoptext

Am I missing something or is this a bug?


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Re: enumeration with the Spanish alphabet

[Pablo Rodriguez]

On 11/12/2014 07:00 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
> I don’t know whether this is related to what Wolfgang reported, but
> using latest beta (2014.11.12 18:16) bookmark numbering doesn’t seem to
> work at all:
> 
>     \setupinteraction[state=start]
>     \definestructureconversionset[sectionnumbers]
>         [R,n,a][n]
>     \setupheads[sectionconversionset=sectionnumbers]
>     \placebookmarks[all]
>     \starttext
>     \part{part}
>     \chapter{chapter}
>     \section{section}
>     \stoptext

I noticed that I misplaced \placebookmarks.

Sorry for the mistake,


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Re: enumeration with the Spanish alphabet

[Pablo Rodriguez]

On 11/12/2014 06:40 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>> Am 12.11.2014 um 18:18 schrieb Hans Hagen:
>>>
>> you can try spanishnumerals
> 
> This won’t work unless you change (are you serious with these names)

Many thanks for your reply, Wolfgang.

Spanish and spanish seems to work. The same rules for Slovenian and
slovenian.

The issue is that for both Slovenian and Spanish have titles numbered
with their own alphabets, but bookmarks appear in the common
international alphabet. I’m afraid this may be inconsistent.

    \mainlanguage[sl]
    \setupinteraction[state=start]
    \placebookmarks[section]
    \definestructureconversionset[sectionnumbers]
        [0,n,a][n]
    \setupheads[sectionconversionset=sectionnumbers]
    \setuplist[section][alternative=d]
    \starttext
    \placelist[section][criterium=all]
    \dorecurse{20}{\section{section}}

    \es\setupheadnumber[section][0]
    \dorecurse{20}{\section{section}}
    \stoptext

Hans, how about enabling the Slovenian/Spanish numbering by default (in
A/a or Characters) and leaving the international alphabet when
specifically requested (with alphabetic)?

This would be also consistent with ennumeration in lists.

Many thanks for your help,


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Re: enumeration with the Spanish alphabet

[Hans Hagen]

On 11/12/2014 6:40 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
>> Am 12.11.2014 um 18:18 schrieb Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl
>> <mailto:pragma@wxs.nl>>:
>>
>> On 11/12/2014 4:23 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>>> On 11/12/2014 01:38 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>>> On 11/11/2014 6:40 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>>>>> [...]
>>>>> Instead of changing the default letter series, how about adding the ñ
>>>>> (or Ñ) after n and before o (or after N and before O) in a new
>>>>> enumeration series named ñ (and Ñ).
>>>>
>>>> in next beta
>>>
>>> Many thanks for your fast implementation, Hans.
>>>
>>> I’m afraid it is not implemented for bookmarks.
>>>
>>>     \mainlanguage[es]
>>>     \setupinteraction[state=start]
>>>     \placebookmarks[section]
>>>     \definestructureconversionset[sectionnumbers]
>>>         [0,n,characters][n]
>>>     \setupheads[sectionconversionset=sectionnumbers]
>>>     \starttext
>>>     \dorecurse{20}{\section{section}}
>>>     \stoptext
>>
>> you can try spanishnumerals
>
> This won’t work unless you change (are you serious with these names)
>
>     \defineconversion [ñ]                    [\spanishnumerals]
>     \defineconversion [Ñ]                    [\Spanishnumerals]
>

well, kind of a joke these names ... fo rtesting .. i'll comment them

> to
>
>     \defineconversion [spanishnumerals]      [\spanishnumerals]
>
>     \defineconversion [Spanishnumerals]      [\Spanishnumerals]
>

ah, it should be spanishcharacters

>
> What’s missing as well are these two definitions in core-con.miv
>
>     \def\spanishnumerals   #1{\ctxcommand{alphabetic(\number#1,"spanish")}}
>
>     \def\Spanishnumerals   #1{\ctxcommand{Alphabetic(\number#1,"spanish")}}

as we have already

\def\spanishcharacters  #1{\ctxcommand{alphabetic(\number#1,"es")}}
\def\spanishCharacters  #1{\ctxcommand{Alphabetic(\number#1,"es")}}

> and the following line in core-con.la
>
>     counters['spanishnumerals']      = counters['spanish']

before we do that ... are we going to use 'numerals' or 'characters' for 
it ... I just copied some slovenian .. okay, I'll go for numerals in the 
next upload

bookmarks will work also then

Hans

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Re: enumeration with the Spanish alphabet

[Pablo Rodriguez]

On 11/12/2014 09:35 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> [...]
> before we do that ... are we going to use 'numerals' or 'characters' for 
> it ... I just copied some slovenian .. okay, I'll go for numerals in the 
> next upload
> 
> bookmarks will work also then

Many thanks for the fix, Hans.


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Re: enumeration with the Spanish alphabet

[Hans Hagen]

On 11/13/2014 7:39 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
> On 11/12/2014 09:35 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> [...]
>> before we do that ... are we going to use 'numerals' or 'characters' for
>> it ... I just copied some slovenian .. okay, I'll go for numerals in the
>> next upload
>>
>> bookmarks will work also then
>
> Many thanks for the fix, Hans.

It's more a new feature than a fix .. so that means that you have to 
wikify it

Hans


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Re: enumeration with the Spanish alphabet

[Pablo Rodriguez]

On 11/14/2014 12:28 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 11/13/2014 7:39 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>> Many thanks for the fix, Hans.
> 
> It's more a new feature than a fix .. so that means that you have to 
> wikify it

Hans,

I have wikified it for http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Enumerations:

    When the selected language is Slovenian or Spanish, items are
    numbered using their proper alphabets (the Slovenian enumeration
    includes č, š and ž; the Spanish enumeration includes ñ). You
    can  change to the international enumeration with alphabetic,
    Alphabetic.

With \definestructureconversionset, the options seem to be the
following:

    a             uses ñ in text, TOC, but not in bookmarks.

    alphabetic    uses ñ in text, but not in TOC or in bookmarks.

    characters    uses ñ in text, TOC and bookmarks.
                  (It doesn’t seem to work in Slovenian [no č in
                  bookmarks].)

Wouldn’t it be possible that the each conversion set uses the same
letter series in all text, TOC and bookmarks? (Sorry, but I’m afraid
that the current behavior is not consistent.)

I’m happy to wikify also title numbering, but first I would like to
be sure that I’m not missing anything.

Many thanks for your help again,


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Re: enumeration with the Spanish alphabet

[Hans Hagen]

On 11/15/2014 11:36 AM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
> On 11/14/2014 12:28 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> On 11/13/2014 7:39 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>>> Many thanks for the fix, Hans.
>>
>> It's more a new feature than a fix .. so that means that you have to
>> wikify it
>
> Hans,
>
> I have wikified it for http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Enumerations:
>
>      When the selected language is Slovenian or Spanish, items are
>      numbered using their proper alphabets (the Slovenian enumeration
>      includes č, š and ž; the Spanish enumeration includes ñ). You
>      can  change to the international enumeration with alphabetic,
>      Alphabetic.
>
> With \definestructureconversionset, the options seem to be the
> following:
>
>      a             uses ñ in text, TOC, but not in bookmarks.
>
>      alphabetic    uses ñ in text, but not in TOC or in bookmarks.
>
>      characters    uses ñ in text, TOC and bookmarks.
>                    (It doesn’t seem to work in Slovenian [no č in
>                    bookmarks].)
>
> Wouldn’t it be possible that the each conversion set uses the same
> letter series in all text, TOC and bookmarks? (Sorry, but I’m afraid
> that the current behavior is not consistent.)
>
> I’m happy to wikify also title numbering, but first I would like to
> be sure that I’m not missing anything.
>
> Many thanks for your help again,

first make an example showing this so that we can see what is wrong

Hans

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Re: enumeration with the Spanish alphabet

[Pablo Rodriguez]

On 11/17/2014 07:06 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 11/15/2014 11:36 AM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>> [...]
>> I’m happy to wikify also title numbering, but first I would like to
>> be sure that I’m not missing anything.
> 
> first make an example showing this so that we can see what is wrong

Hans,

here you have the samples for Slovenian:

    \mainlanguage[sl]
    \definestructureconversionset[sectionnumbers]
        [characters,a,alphabetic][n]
    \setupinteraction[state=start]
    \placebookmarks[part,chapter,section]
        [part,chapter,section]
    \setupinteractionscreen[option=bookmark]
    \setupheads[sectionconversionset=sectionnumbers]
    \setuphead[part][placehead=yes, page=]
    \setuphead[chapter][page=]
    \starttext
    \dorecurse{5}{\part{Part \recurselevel}}
    \dorecurse{5}{\chapter{Chapter \recurselevel}}
    \dorecurse{5}{\section{Section \recurselevel}}
    \startitemize[a, packed][start=3]
    \dorecurse{3}{\item test\endgraf}
    \stopitemize
    \stoptext

and Spanish:

    \mainlanguage[es]
    \definestructureconversionset[sectionnumbers]
        [characters,a,alphabetic][n]
    \setupinteraction[state=start]
    \placebookmarks[part,chapter,section]
        [part,chapter,section]
    \setupinteractionscreen[option=bookmark]
    \setupheads[sectionconversionset=sectionnumbers]
    \setuphead[part][placehead=yes, page=]
    \setuphead[chapter][page=]
    \starttext
    \setupheadnumber[part][13]
    \setupheadnumber[chapter][13]
    \setupheadnumber[section][13]
    \dorecurse{3}{\part{Part \recurselevel}}
    \dorecurse{3}{\chapter{Chapter \recurselevel}}
    \dorecurse{3}{\section{Section \recurselevel}}
    \startitemize[a, packed][start=3]
    \dorecurse{3}{\item test\endgraf}
    \stopitemize
    \stoptext

Their behaviors aren’t exactly the same. This is the reason I send two
samples.

Many thanks for your help,


Pablo
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