From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/74941 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: William Adams Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Style file for iPad? Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 11:30:15 -0500 Message-ID: <5489AF63-D5B2-4DD1-9836-77A3906D207F@frycomm.com> References: <20120306134022.GB29209@khaled-laptop> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1331137847 28651 80.91.229.3 (7 Mar 2012 16:30:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 16:30:47 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Mar 07 17:30:44 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S5JlB-0005cX-Mm for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Mar 2012 17:30:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14215CB265; Wed, 7 Mar 2012 17:30:41 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id cg1aO-e+ms8g; Wed, 7 Mar 2012 17:30:35 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFB1DCB251; Wed, 7 Mar 2012 17:30:35 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 058BECB251 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2012 17:30:34 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id TQG0vp5BUo+S for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2012 17:30:22 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter1-til.mf.surf.net (filter1-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.217]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57D6BCAB03 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2012 17:30:22 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from na3sys009aog107.obsmtp.com (na3sys009aog107.obsmtp.com [74.125.149.197]) by filter1-til.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with SMTP id q27GUHWt001163 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2012 17:30:20 +0100 Original-Received: from olympus.frycomm.com ([65.167.125.41]) by na3sys009aob107.postini.com ([74.125.148.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKT1eNGOh4y+ZVbDzsnorKMM43EcutmDDG@postini.com; Wed, 07 Mar 2012 08:30:21 PST Original-Received: from [192.168.21.159] (charon.frycomm.com [65.167.125.1]) by olympus.frycomm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAFB827A44 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2012 11:30:13 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=74.125.149.197; country=US; region=CA; city=Mountain View; postalcode=94043; latitude=37.4192; longitude=-122.0574; metrocode=807; areacode=650; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.4192,-122.0574&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0RGGEuisl - 7a4a11bf5b65 - 20120307 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.217 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:74941 Archived-At: On Mar 7, 2012, at 3:34 AM, Nicola wrote: > It's worse than pre-TeX printed books. Which makes me wonder: is anyone i= n the = > world addressing this? Are there people in the TeX community involved in = the = > standardization processes (say, Epub3, but also the various W3C specifica= tions), = > who could push forward ideas from TeX, like minimum requirements for the = > algorithms that rendering engines should use? These questions (together w= ith = > sighs) arise every time I see a web page especially with mathematical not= ation=85 The problem is, since the rendering is based on HTML, people just grab a we= b browser framework and build on that to make an ebook viewer. Here's a post I wrote up once comparing a specific ePub display on a specif= ic viewing program w/ a hand-tweaked Plain TeX version: http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3D1371218&postcount=3D7 > those who're curious may find it educational to compare my .pdf w/ this e= Pub version to see the sort of typographic infelicities which even in the b= est ePub version can't be controlled for --- = > - one word last lines > - # of lines on a page constantly changing to prevent widows / orphans > - overly loose line on the middle of pg. 20 > - 3 word stack on pg. 21 (meditation/Meditation) > - 2 word stack on pg. 32 (black) > - 2 word stack on pg. 37 (the) Twice! > - six word river on pg. 40 (the/their/the/the/its/we) > - 2 word stacks on pg. 40 (a & We) > - 3 word stack on pg. 46 (the/the/The) > - 2 word stack on pg. 47 (a) > - awkward break at the bottom of the first page of Chapter VII where the= poem is referred to, but appears on the following page > (when viewed in Sony's ebook viewing program)). In the .pdf I believe the= re were only one or two places where I let two word stacks stand (because t= hey were intractable) --- will have to try again using xetex and margin pro= trusion and character expansion (I'd used DEK's macro for hanging punctuati= on from _The TeXbook_). William -- = William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. ___________________________________________________________________________= ________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-cont= ext webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________= ________