* Delayed page layout change?
@ 2015-01-10 23:36 David Brooks
2015-01-11 10:39 ` Hans Hagen
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From: David Brooks @ 2015-01-10 23:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Hi,
I'm new to ConTeXt (although have used LaTeX in various ways over a long
time) and am impressed! Many thanks for a great system.
I'm wanting some pages in a book to have a different layout to others,
and am using \definelayout and \setuplayout to do so. This all works,
including adding layers to the different layouts. However the layout
change (specified by \setuplayout) occurs immediately after the command
is given, which means following paragraphs on the page have the layout's
new width and not the width used for earlier text on the page: i.e:
+ +
xxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxx
<-- \setuplayout
xxxxx
xxxxx
+ +
+ +
xxxxx
xxxxx
xxxxx
xxxxx
xxxxx
xxxxx
+ +
Is there anyway to defer the change in layout so that it occurs when the
next page starts?? I can obviously force my own page breaks using \page
and give \setuplayout immediately afterwards, but this doesn't allow for
paragraph text to flow over the page boundary.
Thank you.
David Brooks
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2015-01-10 23:36 Delayed page layout change? David Brooks
@ 2015-01-11 10:39 ` Hans Hagen
2015-01-11 18:04 ` David Brooks
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2015-01-11 10:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On 1/11/2015 12:36 AM, David Brooks wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm new to ConTeXt (although have used LaTeX in various ways over a long
> time) and am impressed! Many thanks for a great system.
>
> I'm wanting some pages in a book to have a different layout to others,
> and am using \definelayout and \setuplayout to do so. This all works,
> including adding layers to the different layouts. However the layout
> change (specified by \setuplayout) occurs immediately after the command
> is given, which means following paragraphs on the page have the layout's
> new width and not the width used for earlier text on the page: i.e:
>
> + +
> xxxxxxxxx
> xxxxxxxxx
> xxxxxxxxx
> <-- \setuplayout
> xxxxx
> xxxxx
> + +
> + +
> xxxxx
> xxxxx
> xxxxx
> xxxxx
> xxxxx
> xxxxx
> + +
>
> Is there anyway to defer the change in layout so that it occurs when the
> next page starts?? I can obviously force my own page breaks using \page
> and give \setuplayout immediately afterwards, but this doesn't allow for
> paragraph text to flow over the page boundary.
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
\setuplayout [width=11cm]
\definelayout [odd] [backspace=1cm,height=18cm]
\definelayout [even] [backspace=4cm,height=19cm]
\definelayout [5] [backspace=5cm,height=20cm]
\definelayout [6] [backspace=5cm]
\definelayout [-2] [backspace=0cm,cutspace=0cm]
\definelayout [last] [backspace=0cm,cutspace=0cm]
\checkcurrentlayout \showframe
\starttext
\dorecurse{20} {\input knuth \endgraf \input tufte \endgraf}
\stoptext
so you can play with these settings
Hans
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2015-01-11 10:39 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2015-01-11 18:04 ` David Brooks
2015-01-11 18:30 ` Hans Hagen
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From: David Brooks @ 2015-01-11 18:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
On 11/01/15 11:39 pm, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 1/11/2015 12:36 AM, David Brooks wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm new to ConTeXt (although have used LaTeX in various ways over a long
>> time) and am impressed! Many thanks for a great system.
>>
>> I'm wanting some pages in a book to have a different layout to others,
>> and am using \definelayout and \setuplayout to do so. This all works,
>> including adding layers to the different layouts. However the layout
>> change (specified by \setuplayout) occurs immediately after the command
>> is given, which means following paragraphs on the page have the layout's
>> new width and not the width used for earlier text on the page: i.e:
>>
>> + +
>> xxxxxxxxx
>> xxxxxxxxx
>> xxxxxxxxx
>> <-- \setuplayout
>> xxxxx
>> xxxxx
>> + +
>> + +
>> xxxxx
>> xxxxx
>> xxxxx
>> xxxxx
>> xxxxx
>> xxxxx
>> + +
>>
>> Is there anyway to defer the change in layout so that it occurs when the
>> next page starts?? I can obviously force my own page breaks using \page
>> and give \setuplayout immediately afterwards, but this doesn't allow for
>> paragraph text to flow over the page boundary.
>
> \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
>
> \setuplayout [width=11cm]
> \definelayout [odd] [backspace=1cm,height=18cm]
> \definelayout [even] [backspace=4cm,height=19cm]
> \definelayout [5] [backspace=5cm,height=20cm]
> \definelayout [6] [backspace=5cm]
> \definelayout [-2] [backspace=0cm,cutspace=0cm]
> \definelayout [last] [backspace=0cm,cutspace=0cm]
>
> \checkcurrentlayout \showframe
>
> \starttext
> \dorecurse{20} {\input knuth \endgraf \input tufte \endgraf}
> \stoptext
>
> so you can play with these settings
Thanks, but if the page width changes the current paragraph's width does
not adjust across the page boundary, as seen with:
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
\setuplayout [width=11cm,height=18cm]
\definelayout [odd] [backspace=1cm]
\definelayout [even] [backspace=4cm,width=14cm]
\checkcurrentlayout \showframe
\starttext
\dorecurse{4} {\input knuth \endgraf \input tufte \endgraf}
\stoptext
Regards,
Dave
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2015-01-11 18:04 ` David Brooks
@ 2015-01-11 18:30 ` Hans Hagen
2015-01-11 18:58 ` David Brooks
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2015-01-11 18:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On 1/11/2015 7:04 PM, David Brooks wrote:
> Thanks, but if the page width changes the current paragraph's width does
> not adjust across the page boundary, as seen with:
>
> \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
>
> \setuplayout [width=11cm,height=18cm]
> \definelayout [odd] [backspace=1cm]
> \definelayout [even] [backspace=4cm,width=14cm]
>
> \checkcurrentlayout \showframe
>
> \starttext
> \dorecurse{4} {\input knuth \endgraf \input tufte \endgraf}
> \stoptext
That is because the paragraph is already typeset .. in principle we can
have a simple reflow but then users would ask for more complex things
and it would not work
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2015-01-11 18:30 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2015-01-11 18:58 ` David Brooks
2015-01-11 21:56 ` Hans Hagen
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From: David Brooks @ 2015-01-11 18:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
On 12/01/15 7:30 am, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 1/11/2015 7:04 PM, David Brooks wrote:
>
>> Thanks, but if the page width changes the current paragraph's width does
>> not adjust across the page boundary, as seen with:
>>
>> \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
>>
>> \setuplayout [width=11cm,height=18cm]
>> \definelayout [odd] [backspace=1cm]
>> \definelayout [even] [backspace=4cm,width=14cm]
>>
>> \checkcurrentlayout \showframe
>>
>> \starttext
>> \dorecurse{4} {\input knuth \endgraf \input tufte \endgraf}
>> \stoptext
>
> That is because the paragraph is already typeset .. in principle we
> can have a simple reflow but then users would ask for more complex
> things and it would not work
OK, thanks. Now I know this, I can adjust tweak content so that
paragraphs don't flow over a change of page layout.
Regards,
Dave
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2015-01-11 18:58 ` David Brooks
@ 2015-01-11 21:56 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2015-01-11 21:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On 1/11/2015 7:58 PM, David Brooks wrote:
>
> On 12/01/15 7:30 am, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> On 1/11/2015 7:04 PM, David Brooks wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, but if the page width changes the current paragraph's width does
>>> not adjust across the page boundary, as seen with:
>>>
>>> \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
>>>
>>> \setuplayout [width=11cm,height=18cm]
>>> \definelayout [odd] [backspace=1cm]
>>> \definelayout [even] [backspace=4cm,width=14cm]
>>>
>>> \checkcurrentlayout \showframe
>>>
>>> \starttext
>>> \dorecurse{4} {\input knuth \endgraf \input tufte \endgraf}
>>> \stoptext
>>
>> That is because the paragraph is already typeset .. in principle we
>> can have a simple reflow but then users would ask for more complex
>> things and it would not work
> OK, thanks. Now I know this, I can adjust tweak content so that
> paragraphs don't flow over a change of page layout.
e.g. bij injecting \break or \par at the right spot
Hans
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