From: "Jörg Weger" <joerg73.muc@googlemail.com>
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: bibliography again: “von” and “van”
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 19:20:14 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54C7D6DE.5090505@googlemail.com> (raw)
The default way to diplay (inverted) names with “von” and “van” is “von
Goethe” and “van Halen” in in-text references and “von Goethe, Johann
Wolfgang” and “van Halen, Edward”. The problem with this is that while
AFAIK the Dutch “van Halen” means that one of his ancestors came ”from”
a place/city called “Halen” in German names the “von” is always a sign
of nobility. Even long before monarchy and nobility was abolished in
Germany by the revolution of 1919 you would not have talked about “von
Goethe” but simply “Goethe”–so in a reference it would be “(Goethe
1774)” and “Goethe, Johann Wolfgang von” in the publications list, but
still “(van Halen 1984)” and “van Halen, Edward”. It would be nice if
you could switch between two modes while invoking the citation. I have
not yet discovered where this order is defined.
Greetings Jörg
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next reply other threads:[~2015-01-27 18:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-01-27 18:20 Jörg Weger [this message]
2015-01-27 19:16 ` Keith Schultz
2015-01-27 20:11 ` Jörg Weger
2015-01-28 12:00 ` Ulrike Fischer
2015-01-29 12:06 ` BPJ
2015-01-29 12:53 ` Ulrike Fischer
2015-01-27 20:50 ` Hans Hagen
2015-01-28 3:10 ` Alan BRASLAU
2015-01-28 5:03 ` Jörg Weger
2015-01-28 10:15 ` Keith Schultz
2015-01-31 10:18 ` Hans Hagen
2015-01-28 4:51 ` Jörg Weger
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2015-01-29 9:29 ` Robert Blackstone
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