From: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>
To: ntg-context@ntg.nl
Subject: Re: bibliography again: “von” and “van”
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 21:50:44 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54C7FA24.5080102@wxs.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7289BA22-E6D8-4F7D-9CB0-7522A8F65D44@icloud.com>
On 1/27/2015 8:16 PM, Keith Schultz wrote:
> Hi Jörg,
>
> Though, generally, the von, as well as a few others, are nobility particles in Germany, but not necessarily always
> noblility particles, but at times signify the place where a persons ancestor came from!
>
> Now, in the case Goethe you are right that he was ennobled. Therefore the von is not truly part of his name.
> He should be listed as you rightly mentioned under Goethe and not "von Goethe“.
>
> It is impossible for a bibliographic system to handle this, so there is no switch for it!
you can try to wrap thing that belong together in { } ... it might work
> So, it is up to the author of a text to set up his entries properly, by putting the von in the right part of the name field.
indeed, not all can be catched in a poorly specified format
btw, context loads the bib data in memory and fields of type author get
split into multiple authors and each is split into parts; most magic is
under our own control so we can always add variants if needed (maybe
some prefix that indicates a german name or so) but anyway this whole
von business is on our agenda
Hans
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Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-01-27 18:20 Jörg Weger
2015-01-27 19:16 ` Keith Schultz
2015-01-27 20:11 ` Jörg Weger
2015-01-28 12:00 ` Ulrike Fischer
2015-01-29 12:06 ` BPJ
2015-01-29 12:53 ` Ulrike Fischer
2015-01-27 20:50 ` Hans Hagen [this message]
2015-01-28 3:10 ` Alan BRASLAU
2015-01-28 5:03 ` Jörg Weger
2015-01-28 10:15 ` Keith Schultz
2015-01-31 10:18 ` Hans Hagen
2015-01-28 4:51 ` Jörg Weger
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2015-01-29 9:29 ` Robert Blackstone
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