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From: "Jörg Weger" <joerg73.muc@googlemail.com>
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>,
	Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>
Subject: Re: publications in footnotes (new bibliography mkiv)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2015 13:17:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54CCC7DF.5050309@googlemail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54CCBC89.6040905@wxs.nl>


That \citation[entry] method works fine so far.

But now two practical problems come up:

1. If I put an article from an “incollection” BibTeX entry into the 
publications list the full page range of that article inside the 
collection should be shown, e.g. “S. 250–262” (in German) or something 
like that. If I quote a passage of said article in my text and reference 
it on the same page by a footnote I want only the page number(s) to be 
shown where the exact text passage can be found, let’s say e.g. “S. 
253”. So the footnote cannot be exactly the same as the list try.

2. There might be other cases where the footnote reference and the list 
entry might have to be different: e.g. full given names in the list vs. 
only initials in the footnote, complete listing of all authors in the 
list vs. et al. in the footnote etc. etc.

Is there (will there be) a way to define maybe an “entry variant” for 
that purpose which in above given case would e.g. exclude the page range 
so you could add the page in the footnote manually?

Meanwhile I am fine with my workaround, but future papers I will have to 
write will be much more extensive, which might mean a much larger 
bibliography :).

Greetings Jörg



On 31.01.2015 12:29, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 1/30/2015 10:39 AM, Jörg Weger wrote:
>> At least I have found a workaround for that problem:
>>
>> I will render my complete publications list for the paper by using
>>
>> \placebtxrendering[method=dataset]
>>
>> and copy the entry from the resulting PDF into the footnote of my
>> ConTeXt file. There I can edit (= shorten) and format it.
>>
>> For the future it be great to have a variant like
>>
>> “\cite[publfootnote][<BibTeX_key>]”
>>
>> that would render a predefined style of the publication (optionally
>> different from the list entry) into a footnote.
>
> An in-tex rendering can be done with
>
> \definebtxcitevariant[entry] % this definition is missing in the beta
>
> \starttext
>
>      \citation[entry][something-5]
>
>      \placebtxrendering
>
> \stoptext
>
>
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      reply	other threads:[~2015-01-31 12:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-29 12:41 Jörg Weger
2015-01-30  9:39 ` Jörg Weger
2015-01-31 11:29   ` Hans Hagen
2015-01-31 12:17     ` Jörg Weger [this message]

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