From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/57203 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Saunders Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: typescripts Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:32:29 -0500 Message-ID: <54d7f5601003171832s421f674eqe207c939b11c3279@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1268875980 11528 80.91.229.12 (18 Mar 2010 01:33:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 01:33:00 +0000 (UTC) To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Mar 18 02:32:56 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ns4bX-0001zE-VS for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 02:32:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27CC6C9D74; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 02:32:51 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 256TqoNB5go2; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 02:32:42 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF794C9D4B; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 02:32:42 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2856C9D4B for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 02:32:39 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id QV4-mfeNBsHN for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 02:32:33 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail-yw0-f199.google.com (mail-yw0-f199.google.com [209.85.211.199]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94065C9D49 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 02:32:33 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by ywh37 with SMTP id 37so841575ywh.2 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:32:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=gmCWRxjBS7uqvFfiWkYkQzQva5UbkbedW/v9+i3+ewI=; b=pDWgRC3PgsMSaGNwCNMHs9wYtuvpUgjIJweJfe7NfPiEvQpt1Pgtc8wRw2EWl8wwGW ST+aWJ/x75wvcb+I6c4LETCjFN12H/bZLFdGhItTvVFL1stoCPJWP3UYzKxMhdtdQjGB RT7VmqSSAuge6zl+8ByrMmFsCNfhFRgYKeNK0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=IxoAHkXAa7RNEbyjno7NpERRZ3Okq+dwI+gwuBhWzOPfi9ydKgCx8Oyc6BzY++kJ4U t6SGlUY3zemQmL3WTlEjIX5zzLsgM9Rw20JvsPBVnr0rCboUv94OMLPk8k57M0a/vJ8X /IL/kFiuZs+rd5sUrCkrGuIFZ6TkVOYwe7ebM= Original-Received: by 10.100.236.1 with SMTP id j1mr2619477anh.86.1268875949917; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:32:29 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:57203 Archived-At: Wolfgang Schuster: > do you need all of your fonts at the same time in your document? Most of the time, one serif and one sans. I'd be happy to get these installed. Of course, High quality fonts often come in large sets. The varying weights turn up most often in the variations between different kinds of heads, occasionally in other things. Variations in optical size occur more frequently, besides in heads, in things like quotations, footnotes, and captions. Smallcaps (and sometimes, all-caps environments) often turn up in headers. It's nice to be able to switch easily between roman/italic and other things within environments like that---it's very nice if things like shape, weight and so on can be switched independently. It's also very nice if optical design sizes switch automatically with the current size. Consider, for example, something like this: a book on film with a header: "Fellini's Roma and 8 1/2". I'm used to setting something like this in this way: Fellini's \it{Roma} and \it{\cvfrac{8}{1}{2}} (where \cvfrac{}{}{} is a macro that gives me a compound vulgar fraction). The header is itself in smallcaps, so what comes out is: Fellini's Roma and 8 (italic and lining (i.e., uppercase) because it's a title) 1/2 all with minimal effort on the part of the writer. It seems natural that way. > Do you plan to switch between oldstyle and lining figures each sentence? I've certainly done that before, with lining for quantities and oldstyle for everything else (mostly chapter and page numbers). Of course, other sorts of numerals turn up a lot too---the numerator and denominator variants for fractions, the superiors for footnotemarks and ordinals, and occasionally inferiors as well. > Do you need condensed and regular width together in the running text > or do you want one in the text and the other in the header? The different widths of my sans is one thing I hadn't counted on using much (I spend more time in serif) but, since I have the fonts, I thought it would be nice to be able to use them. More than the specific uses I've mentioned above, I'm used to the freedom of being able to use what I have when the need arises. > ConTeXt is not a DTP program and has a completely different concept. I'm aware of that. I've been using LaTeX for fifteen years now. I keep hearing about Context and the work with Luatex and I want to try it out to see whether I can get higher quality. Loading and switching fonts is just the first hurdle. If it's too difficult to do this in Context, that's okay. I realize that it's a work in progress and these things may be improved someday. I just want to get as much working as I can right now so I can try out more things. I have two fonts to install. I've been at it for two weeks. I realize it might take a few more weeks and a lot of work. I know it's not as easy as dropping them in a folder. That's okay. I'll keep at it. > Before we can give you better answers think about what do want > to achieve and where do you need a certain font feature and style, > when you have a clear picture about this ty to describe it and we > try to help you. ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________