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From: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>
To: ntg-context@ntg.nl
Subject: Re: Problem with margin figures and whitespace in text
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 20:01:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <553D27DC.9050208@wxs.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <553C401B.9050406@rik.users.panix.com>

On 4/26/2015 3:32 AM, Rik Kabel wrote:
> I have two problems with figures placed into the left or right margin.
> When the figure is in a group, extra whitespace is inserted between the
> paragraphs that precede and follow the placefigure command. This happens
> for figures placed by startplacefigure/stopplacefigure and tradiitonal
> placefigure commands, and paragraphs placed by
> startparagraph/stopparagraph or marked by par or newlines.
>
> When the figure is not in a group, whitespace called for by
> \setupwhitespace is lost, except when the paragraphs are marked by
> traditional means. That is, whitespace is lost when
> startparagraph/stopparagraph is used.
>
> Interestingly, when that is changed to bpar/epar, the problem for
> ungrouped figures disappears, but as I understand it, bpar/epar is not a
> real substitute for startparagraph/stopparagraph.
>
> There is probably a simple explanation, but it eludes me. I prefer to be
> able to use startparagraph/stopparagraph, and it is sometimes desirable
> to place a figure into a group in order to prevent unique settings from
> leaking out.

you can test with this in cont-new.mkiv

\unprotect

\def\page_sides_inject_dummy_lines
   {\begingroup
    \scratchcounter\pageshrink
    \divide\scratchcounter \baselineskip
    \advance\scratchcounter \plusone
    \parskip\zeropoint
    \dorecurse\scratchcounter{\hbox to \hsize{}}%
    \kern-\scratchcounter\baselineskip
    \penalty\zerocount
    \endgroup}

\def\page_sides_prepare_space
   {\par
   %\whitespace
    \begingroup
    \forgetall
    \reseteverypar
    \verticalstrut
    \vskip-\struttotal
    \endgroup}

\protect


> The following should demonstrate the problem. Turning on grid setting
> makes it worse. I get the same result with current betas and older versions.
>
>     \useMPlibrary   [dum]
>     %\showgrid
>     \setuplayout    [%grid=yes,
>                       backspace=151pt,leftmargin=117pt]
>     \setupwhitespace[big]
>     \define\Paragraph{\startparagraph\input khatt-en\stopparagraph}
>     \starttext
>     {
>        \subject{Start/stop paragraphs and figures}
>        \subsubject{Group, extra whitespace}
>        \Paragraph
>        \Paragraph
>        \begingroup
>          \startplacefigure[location={leftmargin,none}]
>            \externalfigure[A]
>          \stopplacefigure
>        \endgroup
>        \Paragraph
>        \Paragraph
>        \subsubject{No group, no whitespace}
>        \Paragraph
>        \Paragraph
>        \startplacefigure[location={leftmargin,none}]
>          \externalfigure[A]
>        \stopplacefigure
>        \Paragraph
>        \Paragraph
>        \Paragraph
>     }
>        \page
>     {
>        \subject{Start/stop paragraphs, traditional figures}
>        \subsubject{Group, extra whitespace}
>        \Paragraph
>        \Paragraph
>        {\placefigure[leftmargin,none]{}{\externalfigure[A]}}
>        \Paragraph
>        \Paragraph
>        \subsubject{No group, no whitespace}
>        \Paragraph
>        \Paragraph
>        \placefigure[leftmargin,none]{}{\externalfigure[A]}
>        \Paragraph
>        \Paragraph
>        \Paragraph
>     }
>        \page
>     {
>        \subject{Traditional paragraphs, start/stop figures}
>        \subsubject{Group, extra whitespace}
>        \input khatt-en\par
>        \input khatt-en\par
>        \begingroup% or \bgroup or {
>          \startplacefigure[location={leftmargin,none}]
>            \externalfigure[A]
>          \stopplacefigure
>        \endgroup% or \egroup or }
>        \input khatt-en\par
>        \input khatt-en\par
>        \subsubject{Okay}
>        \input khatt-en\par
>        \input khatt-en\par
>        \startplacefigure[location={leftmargin,none}]
>          \externalfigure[A]
>        \stopplacefigure
>        \input khatt-en\par
>        \input khatt-en\par
>        \input khatt-en\par
>     }
>        \page
>     {
>        \subject{Traditional paragraphs, traditional figures}
>        \subsubject{Group, extra whitespace}
>        \input khatt-en\par
>        \input khatt-en\par
>        {\placefigure[leftmargin,none]{}{\externalfigure[A]}}
>        \input khatt-en\par
>        \input khatt-en\par
>        \subsubject{Okay}
>        \input khatt-en\par
>        \input khatt-en\par
>        \placefigure[leftmargin,none]{}{\externalfigure[A]}
>        \input khatt-en\par
>        \input khatt-en\par
>        \input khatt-en\par
>     }
>     \stoptext
>
> --
> Rik
>
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-26 18:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-26  1:32 Rik Kabel
2015-04-26 18:01 ` Hans Hagen [this message]
2015-04-26 19:49   ` Rik Kabel

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