Label problems with \definelabel and \defineenumeration, in and out of footnotes

Label problems with \definelabel and \defineenumeration, in and out of footnotes

[Rik Kabel]

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The example below documents the problems. In short, \definelabel 
suppresses paragraph indent when the label is at the beginning of a 
paragraph and fails to print the label or generate references with 
alternative=inmargin (or inright, or inleft) when in a footnote.

\defineenumeration fails to work in a footnote.


    \setupindenting[yes,small]
    \definelabel   [ID][
    %\defineenumeration[ID][
        text=,
        after=,
        before=,
        headcolor=red,
        alternative=inright,
       ]
    \starttext
    \starttitle[title={Label testing}]
    \startsubject[title={Problems with \tex{definelabel}}]

       This is a test. It is only a test.

       \ID[id1]This paragraph should be indented, with an ID number
         in the margin. When \tex{ID} is placed at the beginning of the
         paragraph, as it is here, the paragraph is not indented.

       This paragraph has a footnote.\footnote{%
           \ID[id2]The ID number is not printed in the margin with
             {\tt alternative=inright}, {\tt alternative=inmargin},
             or {\tt alternative=inleft}. Without any {\tt
             alternative} the ID number is printed where the macro
             appears. The positioning is unsatisfactory using {\tt
             alternative=right}.%
         } The footnote has an ID number which should be printed in the
         right margin.

       This \ID[id3]paragraph has an ID, but it is not at the beginning
         of the paragraph and the paragraph is properly indented. The
         value of the ID number indicates that \tex{ID} in the footnote
         of the previous paragraph incremented the associated counter,
         but the failure of the references (\tex{in} and \tex{at}) to id2
         suggests that there are other problems.

       \dorecurse{3}{
         ID id#1 is \in[id#1] and is on page \at[id#1].\par}

       References for footnotes are generated without \tt{alternative=}.

    \stopsubject
    \startsubject[title={Problems with \tex{defineenumeration}}]

       When \tex{definelabel} is changed to \tex{defineenumeration},
         the example fails to compile. It does not properly handle
         the \tex{ID} in the footnote, complaining of an extra \} or
         forgotten \tex{endgroup}.

    \stopsubject
    \stoptitle
    \stoptext

-- 
Rik

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Re: Label problems with \definelabel and \defineenumeration, in and out of footnotes

[Rik Kabel]

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Bump.

On 2015-08-11 14:45, Rik Kabel wrote:
> The example below documents the problems. In short, \definelabel 
> suppresses paragraph indent when the label is at the beginning of a 
> paragraph and fails to print the label or generate references with 
> alternative=inmargin (or inright, or inleft) when in a footnote.
>
> \defineenumeration fails to work in a footnote.
>
>
>     \setupindenting[yes,small]
>     \definelabel   [ID][
>     %\defineenumeration[ID][
>        text=,
>        after=,
>        before=,
>        headcolor=red,
>        alternative=inright,
>       ]
>     \starttext
>     \starttitle[title={Label testing}]
>     \startsubject[title={Problems with \tex{definelabel}}]
>
>       This is a test. It is only a test.
>
>       \ID[id1]This paragraph should be indented, with an ID number
>         in the margin. When \tex{ID} is placed at the beginning of the
>         paragraph, as it is here, the paragraph is not indented.
>
>       This paragraph has a footnote.\footnote{%
>           \ID[id2]The ID number is not printed in the margin with
>             {\tt alternative=inright}, {\tt alternative=inmargin},
>             or {\tt alternative=inleft}. Without any {\tt
>             alternative} the ID number is printed where the macro
>             appears. The positioning is unsatisfactory using {\tt
>             alternative=right}.%
>         } The footnote has an ID number which should be printed in the
>         right margin.
>
>       This \ID[id3]paragraph has an ID, but it is not at the beginning
>         of the paragraph and the paragraph is properly indented. The
>         value of the ID number indicates that \tex{ID} in the footnote
>         of the previous paragraph incremented the associated counter,
>         but the failure of the references (\tex{in} and \tex{at}) to id2
>         suggests that there are other problems.
>
>       \dorecurse{3}{
>         ID id#1 is \in[id#1] and is on page \at[id#1].\par}
>
>       References for footnotes are generated without \tt{alternative=}.
>
>     \stopsubject
>     \startsubject[title={Problems with \tex{defineenumeration}}]
>
>       When \tex{definelabel} is changed to \tex{defineenumeration},
>         the example fails to compile. It does not properly handle
>         the \tex{ID} in the footnote, complaining of an extra \} or
>         forgotten \tex{endgroup}.
>
>     \stopsubject
>     \stoptitle
>     \stoptext
>
> -- 
> Rik



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Re: Label problems with \definelabel and \defineenumeration, in and out of footnotes

[Hans Hagen]

On 1/12/2018 6:58 PM, Rik Kabel wrote:
> Bump.
> 
> On 2015-08-11 14:45, Rik Kabel wrote:
>> The example below documents the problems. In short, \definelabel 
>> suppresses paragraph indent when the label is at the beginning of a 
>> paragraph and fails to print the label or generate references with 
>> alternative=inmargin (or inright, or inleft) when in a footnote.
>>
>> \defineenumeration fails to work in a footnote.

use

\ID ... \par

as it has to know where it ends which is a paragraph end

or use

\startID ... \stopID

>>
>>     \setupindenting[yes,small]
>>     \definelabel   [ID][
>>     %\defineenumeration[ID][
>>        text=,
>>        after=,
>>        before=,
>>        headcolor=red,
>>        alternative=inright,
>>       ]
>>     \starttext
>>     \starttitle[title={Label testing}]
>>     \startsubject[title={Problems with \tex{definelabel}}]
>>
>>       This is a test. It is only a test.
>>
>>       \ID[id1]This paragraph should be indented, with an ID number
>>         in the margin. When \tex{ID} is placed at the beginning of the
>>         paragraph, as it is here, the paragraph is not indented.
>>
>>       This paragraph has a footnote.\footnote{%
>>           \ID[id2]The ID number is not printed in the margin with
>>             {\tt alternative=inright}, {\tt alternative=inmargin},
>>             or {\tt alternative=inleft}. Without any {\tt
>>             alternative} the ID number is printed where the macro
>>             appears. The positioning is unsatisfactory using {\tt
>>             alternative=right}.%
>>         } The footnote has an ID number which should be printed in the
>>         right margin.
>>
>>       This \ID[id3]paragraph has an ID, but it is not at the beginning
>>         of the paragraph and the paragraph is properly indented. The
>>         value of the ID number indicates that \tex{ID} in the footnote
>>         of the previous paragraph incremented the associated counter,
>>         but the failure of the references (\tex{in} and \tex{at}) to id2
>>         suggests that there are other problems.
>>
>>       \dorecurse{3}{
>>         ID id#1 is \in[id#1] and is on page \at[id#1].\par}
>>
>>       References for footnotes are generated without \tt{alternative=}.
>>
>>     \stopsubject
>>     \startsubject[title={Problems with \tex{defineenumeration}}]
>>
>>       When \tex{definelabel} is changed to \tex{defineenumeration},
>>         the example fails to compile. It does not properly handle
>>         the \tex{ID} in the footnote, complaining of an extra \} or
>>         forgotten \tex{endgroup}.
>>
>>     \stopsubject
>>     \stoptitle
>>     \stoptext
>>
>> -- 
>> Rik
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Label problems with \definelabel and \defineenumeration, in and out of footnotes

[Rik Kabel]

On 2018-01-12 13:27, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 1/12/2018 6:58 PM, Rik Kabel wrote:
>> Bump.
>>
>> On 2015-08-11 14:45, Rik Kabel wrote:
>>> The example below documents the problems. In short, \definelabel 
>>> suppresses paragraph indent when the label is at the beginning of a 
>>> paragraph and fails to print the label or generate references with 
>>> alternative=inmargin (or inright, or inleft) when in a footnote.
>>>
>>> \defineenumeration fails to work in a footnote.
>
> use
>
> \ID ... \par
>
> as it has to know where it ends which is a paragraph end
>
> or use
>
> \startID ... \stopID
>
>>>
>>>     \setupindenting[yes,small]
>>>     \definelabel   [ID][
>>>     %\defineenumeration[ID][
>>>        text=,
>>>        after=,
>>>        before=,
>>>        headcolor=red,
>>>        alternative=inright,
>>>       ]
>>>     \starttext
>>>     \starttitle[title={Label testing}]
>>>     \startsubject[title={Problems with \tex{definelabel}}]
>>>
>>>       This is a test. It is only a test.
>>>
>>>       \ID[id1]This paragraph should be indented, with an ID number
>>>         in the margin. When \tex{ID} is placed at the beginning of the
>>>         paragraph, as it is here, the paragraph is not indented.
>>>
>>>       This paragraph has a footnote.\footnote{%
>>>           \ID[id2]The ID number is not printed in the margin with
>>>             {\tt alternative=inright}, {\tt alternative=inmargin},
>>>             or {\tt alternative=inleft}. Without any {\tt
>>>             alternative} the ID number is printed where the macro
>>>             appears. The positioning is unsatisfactory using {\tt
>>>             alternative=right}.%
>>>         } The footnote has an ID number which should be printed in the
>>>         right margin.
>>>
>>>       This \ID[id3]paragraph has an ID, but it is not at the beginning
>>>         of the paragraph and the paragraph is properly indented. The
>>>         value of the ID number indicates that \tex{ID} in the footnote
>>>         of the previous paragraph incremented the associated counter,
>>>         but the failure of the references (\tex{in} and \tex{at}) to 
>>> id2
>>>         suggests that there are other problems.
>>>
>>>       \dorecurse{3}{
>>>         ID id#1 is \in[id#1] and is on page \at[id#1].\par}
>>>
>>>       References for footnotes are generated without \tt{alternative=}.
>>>
>>>     \stopsubject
>>>     \startsubject[title={Problems with \tex{defineenumeration}}]
>>>
>>>       When \tex{definelabel} is changed to \tex{defineenumeration},
>>>         the example fails to compile. It does not properly handle
>>>         the \tex{ID} in the footnote, complaining of an extra \} or
>>>         forgotten \tex{endgroup}.
>>>
>>>     \stopsubject
>>>     \stoptitle
>>>     \stoptext
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Rik
Thank you Hans.

With \defineenumeration, adding an explicit \par for the footnote allows 
the index to print in the margin, and it works as well with 
multi-paragraph footnotes using \epar and \bpar.

However, this does not address the failure to indent when the ID starts 
a paragraph.

This does nothing to address the issues with \definelabel, but 
\defineenumeration, together with "don't do that" for paragraph starts, 
may now suffice.

-- 
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Re: Label problems with \definelabel and \defineenumeration, in and out of footnotes

[Hans Hagen]

On 1/12/2018 8:24 PM, Rik Kabel wrote:
> On 2018-01-12 13:27, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> On 1/12/2018 6:58 PM, Rik Kabel wrote:
>>> Bump.
>>>
>>> On 2015-08-11 14:45, Rik Kabel wrote:
>>>> The example below documents the problems. In short, \definelabel 
>>>> suppresses paragraph indent when the label is at the beginning of a 
>>>> paragraph and fails to print the label or generate references with 
>>>> alternative=inmargin (or inright, or inleft) when in a footnote.
>>>>
>>>> \defineenumeration fails to work in a footnote.
>>
>> use
>>
>> \ID ... \par
>>
>> as it has to know where it ends which is a paragraph end
>>
>> or use
>>
>> \startID ... \stopID
>>
>>>>
>>>>     \setupindenting[yes,small]
>>>>     \definelabel   [ID][
>>>>     %\defineenumeration[ID][
>>>>        text=,
>>>>        after=,
>>>>        before=,
>>>>        headcolor=red,
>>>>        alternative=inright,
>>>>       ]
>>>>     \starttext
>>>>     \starttitle[title={Label testing}]
>>>>     \startsubject[title={Problems with \tex{definelabel}}]
>>>>
>>>>       This is a test. It is only a test.
>>>>
>>>>       \ID[id1]This paragraph should be indented, with an ID number
>>>>         in the margin. When \tex{ID} is placed at the beginning of the
>>>>         paragraph, as it is here, the paragraph is not indented.
>>>>
>>>>       This paragraph has a footnote.\footnote{%
>>>>           \ID[id2]The ID number is not printed in the margin with
>>>>             {\tt alternative=inright}, {\tt alternative=inmargin},
>>>>             or {\tt alternative=inleft}. Without any {\tt
>>>>             alternative} the ID number is printed where the macro
>>>>             appears. The positioning is unsatisfactory using {\tt
>>>>             alternative=right}.%
>>>>         } The footnote has an ID number which should be printed in the
>>>>         right margin.
>>>>
>>>>       This \ID[id3]paragraph has an ID, but it is not at the beginning
>>>>         of the paragraph and the paragraph is properly indented. The
>>>>         value of the ID number indicates that \tex{ID} in the footnote
>>>>         of the previous paragraph incremented the associated counter,
>>>>         but the failure of the references (\tex{in} and \tex{at}) to 
>>>> id2
>>>>         suggests that there are other problems.
>>>>
>>>>       \dorecurse{3}{
>>>>         ID id#1 is \in[id#1] and is on page \at[id#1].\par}
>>>>
>>>>       References for footnotes are generated without \tt{alternative=}.
>>>>
>>>>     \stopsubject
>>>>     \startsubject[title={Problems with \tex{defineenumeration}}]
>>>>
>>>>       When \tex{definelabel} is changed to \tex{defineenumeration},
>>>>         the example fails to compile. It does not properly handle
>>>>         the \tex{ID} in the footnote, complaining of an extra \} or
>>>>         forgotten \tex{endgroup}.
>>>>
>>>>     \stopsubject
>>>>     \stoptitle
>>>>     \stoptext
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Rik
> Thank you Hans.
> 
> With \defineenumeration, adding an explicit \par for the footnote allows 
> the index to print in the margin, and it works as well with 
> multi-paragraph footnotes using \epar and \bpar.
> 
> However, this does not address the failure to indent when the ID starts 
> a paragraph.

maybe putting a \dontleavehmode in front helps

> This does nothing to address the issues with \definelabel, but 
> \defineenumeration, together with "don't do that" for paragraph starts, 
> may now suffice.
> 


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Re: Label problems with \definelabel and \defineenumeration, in and out of footnotes

[Rik Kabel]

On 2018-01-12 15:50, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 1/12/2018 8:24 PM, Rik Kabel wrote:
>> On 2018-01-12 13:27, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>> On 1/12/2018 6:58 PM, Rik Kabel wrote:
>>>> Bump.
>>>>
>>>> On 2015-08-11 14:45, Rik Kabel wrote:
>>>>> The example below documents the problems. In short, \definelabel 
>>>>> suppresses paragraph indent when the label is at the beginning of 
>>>>> a paragraph and fails to print the label or generate references 
>>>>> with alternative=inmargin (or inright, or inleft) when in a footnote.
>>>>>
>>>>> \defineenumeration fails to work in a footnote.
>>>
>>> use
>>>
>>> \ID ... \par
>>>
>>> as it has to know where it ends which is a paragraph end
>>>
>>> or use
>>>
>>> \startID ... \stopID
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     \setupindenting[yes,small]
>>>>>     \definelabel   [ID][
>>>>>     %\defineenumeration[ID][
>>>>>        text=,
>>>>>        after=,
>>>>>        before=,
>>>>>        headcolor=red,
>>>>>        alternative=inright,
>>>>>       ]
>>>>>     \starttext
>>>>>     \starttitle[title={Label testing}]
>>>>>     \startsubject[title={Problems with \tex{definelabel}}]
>>>>>
>>>>>       This is a test. It is only a test.
>>>>>
>>>>>       \ID[id1]This paragraph should be indented, with an ID number
>>>>>         in the margin. When \tex{ID} is placed at the beginning of 
>>>>> the
>>>>>         paragraph, as it is here, the paragraph is not indented.
>>>>>
>>>>>       This paragraph has a footnote.\footnote{%
>>>>>           \ID[id2]The ID number is not printed in the margin with
>>>>>             {\tt alternative=inright}, {\tt alternative=inmargin},
>>>>>             or {\tt alternative=inleft}. Without any {\tt
>>>>>             alternative} the ID number is printed where the macro
>>>>>             appears. The positioning is unsatisfactory using {\tt
>>>>>             alternative=right}.%
>>>>>         } The footnote has an ID number which should be printed in 
>>>>> the
>>>>>         right margin.
>>>>>
>>>>>       This \ID[id3]paragraph has an ID, but it is not at the 
>>>>> beginning
>>>>>         of the paragraph and the paragraph is properly indented. The
>>>>>         value of the ID number indicates that \tex{ID} in the 
>>>>> footnote
>>>>>         of the previous paragraph incremented the associated counter,
>>>>>         but the failure of the references (\tex{in} and \tex{at}) 
>>>>> to id2
>>>>>         suggests that there are other problems.
>>>>>
>>>>>       \dorecurse{3}{
>>>>>         ID id#1 is \in[id#1] and is on page \at[id#1].\par}
>>>>>
>>>>>       References for footnotes are generated without 
>>>>> \tt{alternative=}.
>>>>>
>>>>>     \stopsubject
>>>>>     \startsubject[title={Problems with \tex{defineenumeration}}]
>>>>>
>>>>>       When \tex{definelabel} is changed to \tex{defineenumeration},
>>>>>         the example fails to compile. It does not properly handle
>>>>>         the \tex{ID} in the footnote, complaining of an extra \} or
>>>>>         forgotten \tex{endgroup}.
>>>>>
>>>>>     \stopsubject
>>>>>     \stoptitle
>>>>>     \stoptext
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Rik
>> Thank you Hans.
>>
>> With \defineenumeration, adding an explicit \par for the footnote 
>> allows the index to print in the margin, and it works as well with 
>> multi-paragraph footnotes using \epar and \bpar.
>>
>> However, this does not address the failure to indent when the ID 
>> starts a paragraph.
>
> maybe putting a \dontleavehmode in front helps

Indeed. Thank you. Adding it to the before key of \defineenumeration 
appears to have no unwanted side effects. Can you think of a reason not 
to do that?

-- 
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Re: Label problems with \definelabel and \defineenumeration, in and out of footnotes

[Hans Hagen]

On 1/12/2018 10:31 PM, Rik Kabel wrote:

>> maybe putting a \dontleavehmode in front helps
> 
> Indeed. Thank you. Adding it to the before key of \defineenumeration 
> appears to have no unwanted side effects. Can you think of a reason not 
> to do that?
something tex ... one starts a group at the start of a paragraph while 
not yet in par/hmode .. \dontleavehmode forces hmode (a paragraph)

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Re: Label problems with \definelabel and \defineenumeration, in and out of footnotes

[Rik Kabel]

On 2018-01-12 17:46, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 1/12/2018 10:31 PM, Rik Kabel wrote:
>
>>> maybe putting a \dontleavehmode in front helps
>>
>> Indeed. Thank you. Adding it to the before key of \defineenumeration 
>> appears to have no unwanted side effects. Can you think of a reason 
>> not to do that?
> something tex ... one starts a group at the start of a paragraph while 
> not yet in par/hmode .. \dontleavehmode forces hmode (a paragraph)
Understood. I was just wondering if there is a downside to using it 
everwhere one places an enumeration by putting it into the before key.

-- 
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