Issues of Export

Issues of Export

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

As listed on http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Export

Open Export issues as of 2014-01-20, still valid 2015-08-08
	• Structure bug: Metadata ends up within the first section instead of in front of everything
	• Names of metavariables are missing in div.xhtml
	• Notes (footnotes): Only visual formatting, no semantical markup and no reference/ID
	• Delimited: Quotations have tagging *and* quotation marks, even in raw.xml
	• Firstpage/Lastpage is ignored in project structure
	• Minimal example doesn’t create a cover at all


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Re: Issues of Export

[Hans Hagen]

On 8/10/2015 10:30 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> As listed on http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Export
>
> Open Export issues as of 2014-01-20, still valid 2015-08-08
> 	• Structure bug: Metadata ends up within the first section instead of in front of everything

ok, fixed for document level ... keep in mind that setting metadata 
always relates to the next element

> 	• Names of metavariables are missing in div.xhtml

ok, i've added something

> 	• Notes (footnotes): Only visual formatting, no semantical markup and no reference/ID

boring, so todo

> 	• Delimited: Quotations have tagging *and* quotation marks, even in raw.xml

i added symbol and content element

> 	• Firstpage/Lastpage is ignored in project structure

fuzzy, so todo

> 	• Minimal example doesn’t create a cover at all

no beta yet

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Re: Issues of Export

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Hi, finally coming back...

Am 2015-08-10 um 23:21 schrieb Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:

> On 8/10/2015 10:30 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
>> As listed on http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Export
>> 
>> Open Export issues as of 2014-01-20, still valid 2015-08-08
>> 	• Structure bug: Metadata ends up within the first section instead of in front of everything
> 
> ok, fixed for document level ... keep in mind that setting metadata always relates to the next element

Thanks, for me it’s good now.

>> 	• Names of metavariables are missing in div.xhtml
> ok, i've added something

Works. Not that important anyway.

>> 	• Notes (footnotes): Only visual formatting, no semantical markup and no reference/ID
> boring, so todo

Hey, I thought TeX would be about semantical markup? At the moment the markup for footnotes is purely graphical - a marker in the text, and the footnote somewhere later (where it appears on the printed page). E.g.

Bla bla<descriptionsymbol detail="footnote"><sup>1</sup></descriptionsymbol> bla bla ba <break/>...<description detail="footnote" chain="footnote"><descriptiontag><sup>1</sup> </descriptiontag><descriptioncontent>This is the footnote text</descriptioncontent></description>

That makes no sense and is very hard to process, even using xsl.
I would suggest to stay with the source flow instead of the output, if possible. E.g. markup like

Bla bla<description detail="footnote" id="1" tag="1">Footnote text</description>

The id would be some internal id (I guess there is one?), the tag the footnote marker (as of \setupnotes).
Is that not possible and even simpler than the current version?

>> 	• Delimited: Quotations have tagging *and* quotation marks, even in raw.xml
> i added symbol and content element

Less would be enough, but works this way.

>> 	• Firstpage/Lastpage is ignored in project structure
> fuzzy, so todo

The keywords are defined in setup, I don’t understand where they get forgotten.

>> 	• Minimal example doesn’t create a cover at all
> no beta yet

? Is this intentional, or what triggers the creation of cover.xhtml?

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Re: Issues of Export

[Hans Hagen]

On 8/15/2015 1:20 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> Hi, finally coming back...
>
> Am 2015-08-10 um 23:21 schrieb Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:
>
>> On 8/10/2015 10:30 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
>>> As listed on http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Export
>>>
>>> Open Export issues as of 2014-01-20, still valid 2015-08-08
>>> 	• Structure bug: Metadata ends up within the first section instead of in front of everything
>>
>> ok, fixed for document level ... keep in mind that setting metadata always relates to the next element
>
> Thanks, for me it’s good now.
>
>>> 	• Names of metavariables are missing in div.xhtml
>> ok, i've added something
>
> Works. Not that important anyway.
>
>>> 	• Notes (footnotes): Only visual formatting, no semantical markup and no reference/ID
>> boring, so todo
>
> Hey, I thought TeX would be about semantical markup? At the moment the markup for footnotes is purely graphical - a marker in the text, and the footnote somewhere later (where it appears on the printed page). E.g.
>
> Bla bla<descriptionsymbol detail="footnote"><sup>1</sup></descriptionsymbol> bla bla ba <break/>...<description detail="footnote" chain="footnote"><descriptiontag><sup>1</sup> </descriptiontag><descriptioncontent>This is the footnote text</descriptioncontent></description>
>
> That makes no sense and is very hard to process, even using xsl.
> I would suggest to stay with the source flow instead of the output, if possible. E.g. markup like
>
> Bla bla<description detail="footnote" id="1" tag="1">Footnote text</description>
>
> The id would be some internal id (I guess there is one?), the tag the footnote marker (as of \setupnotes).
> Is that not possible and even simpler than the current version?

the code is there but its use got lost when updating something else (an 
id 'insert' that links the note and symbol)

btw, if you want them someplace else in the stream using end nodes makes 
sense

>>> 	• Delimited: Quotations have tagging *and* quotation marks, even in raw.xml
>> i added symbol and content element
>
> Less would be enough, but works this way.
>
>>> 	• Firstpage/Lastpage is ignored in project structure
>> fuzzy, so todo
>
> The keywords are defined in setup, I don’t understand where they get forgotten.
>
>>> 	• Minimal example doesn’t create a cover at all
>> no beta yet
>
> ? Is this intentional, or what triggers the creation of cover.xhtml?
>
> Greetlings, Hraban
> ---
> http://www.fiee.net
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net
> https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer)
>
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!
>
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> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>


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Re: Issues of Export

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Another one:
Previously, section nodes had an "implicit" attribute with an id, I used that to conveniently splitting my book into chapters. Now it’s missing - is there a reason, or can I setup something to get it back?


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Re: Issues of Export

[Hans Hagen]

On 8/27/2015 11:33 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> Another one:
> Previously, section nodes had an "implicit" attribute with an id, I used that to conveniently splitting my book into chapters. Now it’s missing - is there a reason, or can I setup something to get it back?

it's sort of present but not in sync (some elements get it) ... fixed in 
next beta


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