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* suppress header-footers
@ 2015-09-14  9:01 Meer, Hans van der
  2015-09-14 17:13 ` Pablo Rodriguez
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From: Meer, Hans van der @ 2015-09-14  9:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
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With \noheaderandfooterlines one can suppress the header and footer lines on the current page.

When using \setuplayout[location=doublesided] a blank page is generated if necessary. However this generated page does contain header/footer, notwhithstanding the use of \noheaderandfooterlines. Is it possible to avoid this?

Hans van der Meer




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* Re: suppress header-footers
  2015-09-14  9:01 suppress header-footers Meer, Hans van der
@ 2015-09-14 17:13 ` Pablo Rodriguez
  2015-09-14 18:33   ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Pablo Rodriguez @ 2015-09-14 17:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 09/14/2015 11:01 AM, Meer, Hans van der wrote:
> With \noheaderandfooterlines one can suppress the header and footer lines on the current page.
> 
> When using \setuplayout[location=doublesided] a blank page is
> generated if necessary. However this generated page does contain
> header/footer, notwhithstanding the use of \noheaderandfooterlines. Is
> it possible to avoid this?

Hi Hans,

\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided] is the command I know to work.

You can add either blank or header and footer to page break option, such
as in:

    \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
    \setuphead[chapter][page={yes, header, footer, right}]
    \setupheadertexts[Header]
    \setupfootertexts[Footer]
    \starttext
    \dorecurse{3}{\chapter{Chapter}\noheaderandfooterlines}
    \stoptext

For some strange reason (at least, unknown to me), header and footer
must be placed before right (if specified at all). Although blank may be
placed before or after right.

I hope it helps,


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* Re: suppress header-footers
  2015-09-14 17:13 ` Pablo Rodriguez
@ 2015-09-14 18:33   ` Wolfgang Schuster
  2015-09-14 19:28     ` Pablo Rodriguez
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2015-09-14 18:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> Pablo Rodriguez <mailto:oinos@gmx.es>
> 14. September 2015 19:13
>
> Hi Hans,
>
> \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided] is the command I know to 
> work.
>
> You can add either blank or header and footer to page break option, such
> as in:
>
> \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
> \setuphead[chapter][page={yes, header, footer, right}]
> \setupheadertexts[Header]
> \setupfootertexts[Footer]
> \starttext
> \dorecurse{3}{\chapter{Chapter}\noheaderandfooterlines}
> \stoptext
>
> For some strange reason (at least, unknown to me), header and footer
> must be placed before right (if specified at all).
I will explain it for you.

When your text from the previous chapter ends on a right page the "yes" ends
the page end we move to the next left page. With the "header" and "footer"
keywords we disable the header and footer lines on this page. The last
keyword "right" moves us from the now empty left page to the following 
right page.

Wolfgang

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* Re: suppress header-footers
  2015-09-14 18:33   ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2015-09-14 19:28     ` Pablo Rodriguez
  2015-09-14 19:45       ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Pablo Rodriguez @ 2015-09-14 19:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 09/14/2015 08:33 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>> Pablo Rodriguez 14. September 2015 19:13
>> [...]
>> For some strange reason (at least, unknown to me), header and footer
>> must be placed before right (if specified at all).
> 
> I will explain it for you.
> 
> When your text from the previous chapter ends on a right page the "yes" ends
> the page end we move to the next left page. With the "header" and "footer"
> keywords we disable the header and footer lines on this page. The last
> keyword "right" moves us from the now empty left page to the following
> right page.

Many thanks for the explanation, Wolfgang.

I have only a question: why doesn’t blank behave the same way? Is blank
a switch?

Many thanks for your help,


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* Re: suppress header-footers
  2015-09-14 19:28     ` Pablo Rodriguez
@ 2015-09-14 19:45       ` Wolfgang Schuster
  2015-09-17  5:24         ` Pablo Rodriguez
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2015-09-14 19:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> Pablo Rodriguez <mailto:oinos@gmx.es>
> 14. September 2015 21:28
>
> Many thanks for the explanation, Wolfgang.
>
> I have only a question: why doesn’t blank behave the same way? Is blank
> a switch?
What do you expect from blank?

\setupbackgrounds[page][background=color,backgroundcolor=yellow]

\setuppagenumbering
   [alternative=doublesided,
%         page={yes,blank,right},
   ]

\starttext

\dorecurse{3}{\input knuth\par}
\page[yes,blank,right]
\dorecurse{6}{\input knuth\par}
\page[yes,blank,right]
\dorecurse{3}{\input knuth\par}

\stoptext

Wolfgang

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* Re: suppress header-footers
  2015-09-14 19:45       ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2015-09-17  5:24         ` Pablo Rodriguez
  2015-09-17 10:36           ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Pablo Rodriguez @ 2015-09-17  5:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 09/14/2015 09:45 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>> Pablo Rodriguez 14. September 2015 21:28
>> [...]
>> I have only a question: why doesn’t blank behave the same way? Is blank
>> a switch?
> 
> What do you expect from blank?

Well, the question isn’t my expectation about blank, but about right.

Header and footer are applied to the right page only if set before
right. But blank may be written before or after right.

I must be missing something, because I think that the behavior of blank
in both cases might be inconsistent.

Many thanks for your help,

Pablo


> \setupbackgrounds[page][background=color,backgroundcolor=yellow]
> 
> \setuppagenumbering
>   [alternative=doublesided,
> %         page={yes,blank,right},
>   ]
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \dorecurse{3}{\input knuth\par}
> \page[yes,blank,right]
> \dorecurse{6}{\input knuth\par}
> \page[yes,blank,right]
> \dorecurse{3}{\input knuth\par}
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> Wolfgang
> 
> 
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> 


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* Re: suppress header-footers
  2015-09-17  5:24         ` Pablo Rodriguez
@ 2015-09-17 10:36           ` Wolfgang Schuster
  2015-09-17 15:55             ` Pablo Rodriguez
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2015-09-17 10:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> Pablo Rodriguez <mailto:oinos@gmx.es>
> 17. September 2015 07:24
> On 09/14/2015 09:45 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>>> Pablo Rodriguez 14. September 2015 21:28
>>> [...]
>>> I have only a question: why doesn’t blank behave the same way? Is blank
>>> a switch?
>> What do you expect from blank?
>
> Well, the question isn’t my expectation about blank, but about right.
>
> Header and footer are applied to the right page only if set before
> right. But blank may be written before or after right.
>
> I must be missing something, because I think that the behavior of blank
> in both cases might be inconsistent.
>
Let me repeat my question, what do expect from the blank keyword?

The only description I found is “insert a completely blank page” from 
cont-enp.pdf.

Wolfgang

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* Re: suppress header-footers
  2015-09-17 10:36           ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2015-09-17 15:55             ` Pablo Rodriguez
  2015-09-17 17:29               ` Wolfgang Schuster
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On 09/17/2015 12:36 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> [...]
> Let me repeat my question, what do expect from the blank keyword?
> 
> The only description I found is “insert a completely blank page” from
> cont-enp.pdf.

Many thanks for your reply, Wolfgang.

I thought that blank implied the how the next page would look like, but
not the insertion of a new page.

Everything is clear to me now.

Many thanks for your help,


Pablo
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* Re: suppress header-footers
  2015-09-17 15:55             ` Pablo Rodriguez
@ 2015-09-17 17:29               ` Wolfgang Schuster
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> Pablo Rodriguez <mailto:oinos@gmx.es>
> 17. September 2015 17:55
>
> Many thanks for your reply, Wolfgang.
>
> I thought that blank implied the how the next page would look like, but
> not the insertion of a new page.
The blank keyword doesn’t insert a new page, it sets only a flag which 
hides all page backgrounds
(colors, overlays or headers) on the given page but the flag lasts only 
for a single page.

Wolfgang

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