bug in nothyphenated?

bug in nothyphenated?

[Pablo Rodriguez]

Dear list,

I have the following sample:

    \def\abc{Con\-\TeX{}t}
    \hyphenation{Con-TeXt}
    \starttext
    \startTEXpage[offset=1em, align={right, nothyphenated}]
    \hyphenatedword{legibility}\\
    \hyphenatedword{\abc}\\
    \abc\\
    \hyphenatedword{\ConTeXt}
    \stopTEXpage
    \stoptext

I have to define \ConTeXt as in \abc. Otherwise, it won’t get hyphenated
at all. If I add \hyphenation{Con-TeXt}, no kerning will be applied in
the pair nT.

But redefining \ConTeXt as Con\-\TeX{}t hyphenates the word even when
nothyphenated is selected.

Isn’t this a bug with nothyphenated?

Many thanks for your help,


Pablo
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Re: bug in nothyphenated?

[Hans Hagen]

On 9/13/2015 7:59 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
> Dear list,
>
> I have the following sample:
>
>      \def\abc{Con\-\TeX{}t}
>      \hyphenation{Con-TeXt}
>      \starttext
>      \startTEXpage[offset=1em, align={right, nothyphenated}]
>      \hyphenatedword{legibility}\\
>      \hyphenatedword{\abc}\\
>      \abc\\
>      \hyphenatedword{\ConTeXt}
>      \stopTEXpage
>      \stoptext
>
> I have to define \ConTeXt as in \abc. Otherwise, it won’t get hyphenated
> at all. If I add \hyphenation{Con-TeXt}, no kerning will be applied in
> the pair nT.
>
> But redefining \ConTeXt as Con\-\TeX{}t hyphenates the word even when
> nothyphenated is selected.
>
> Isn’t this a bug with nothyphenated?

it has to do with uppercase .. that prevents hyphenation

Hans

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Re: bug in nothyphenated?

[Pablo Rodriguez]

On 09/21/2015 06:55 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 9/13/2015 7:59 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>>
>>      \def\abc{Con\-\TeX{}t}
>>      \hyphenation{Con-TeXt}
>>      \starttext
>>      \startTEXpage[offset=1em, align={right, nothyphenated}]
>>      \hyphenatedword{legibility}\\
>>      \hyphenatedword{\abc}\\
>>      \abc\\
>>      \hyphenatedword{\ConTeXt}
>>      \stopTEXpage
>>      \stoptext
>>
>> I have to define \ConTeXt as in \abc. Otherwise, it won’t get hyphenated
>> at all. If I add \hyphenation{Con-TeXt}, no kerning will be applied in
>> the pair nT.
>>
>> But redefining \ConTeXt as Con\-\TeX{}t hyphenates the word even when
>> nothyphenated is selected.
>>
>> Isn’t this a bug with nothyphenated?
> 
> it has to do with uppercase .. that prevents hyphenation

Sorry, Hans, but I’m afraid I don‘t get it.

The issue is that hyphenation takes place even when nothyphenated should
prevent it.

What am I missing in your eplanation?

Many thanks for your help,


Pablo
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Re: bug in nothyphenated?

[Hans Hagen]

On 9/21/2015 9:44 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
> On 09/21/2015 06:55 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> On 9/13/2015 7:59 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>>>
>>>       \def\abc{Con\-\TeX{}t}
>>>       \hyphenation{Con-TeXt}
>>>       \starttext
>>>       \startTEXpage[offset=1em, align={right, nothyphenated}]
>>>       \hyphenatedword{legibility}\\
>>>       \hyphenatedword{\abc}\\
>>>       \abc\\
>>>       \hyphenatedword{\ConTeXt}
>>>       \stopTEXpage
>>>       \stoptext
>>>
>>> I have to define \ConTeXt as in \abc. Otherwise, it won’t get hyphenated
>>> at all. If I add \hyphenation{Con-TeXt}, no kerning will be applied in
>>> the pair nT.
>>>
>>> But redefining \ConTeXt as Con\-\TeX{}t hyphenates the word even when
>>> nothyphenated is selected.
>>>
>>> Isn’t this a bug with nothyphenated?
>>
>> it has to do with uppercase .. that prevents hyphenation
>
> Sorry, Hans, but I’m afraid I don‘t get it.
>
> The issue is that hyphenation takes place even when nothyphenated should
> prevent it.
>
> What am I missing in your eplanation?

\- is explicit, nothyphenated only prevents the pattern based hyphen 
injector

Hans

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Re: bug in nothyphenated?

[Pablo Rodriguez]

On 09/22/2015 01:53 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 9/21/2015 9:44 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>> [...]
>> Sorry, Hans, but I’m afraid I don‘t get it.
>>
>> The issue is that hyphenation takes place even when nothyphenated should
>> prevent it.
>>
>> What am I missing in your eplanation?
> 
> \- is explicit, nothyphenated only prevents the pattern based hyphen 
> injector

Many thanks for the reply, Hans.

It seems that the task of hyphenating \ConTeXt is unsolvable. I get
either too much or no hyphenation at all.

Many thanks for your help,


Pablo
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Re: bug in nothyphenated?

[Pablo Rodriguez]

On 09/23/2015 05:45 PM, Andres Conrado wrote:
> [...]
> This maybe is not very important to you, but, as a designer, I see
> \ConTeXt as a logotype, so, it's not supposed to be hyphenated. 

Hi Andrés,

\ConTeXt is also a word and sometimes hyphenation is required:

    %~ \def\ConTeXt{Con\-\TeX{}t}
    \setupbodyfont[palatino, 16pt]
    \starttext
    I need to hyphenate the logotype when
    it is placed here: \ConTeXt. \input zapf
    \stoptext

I realized that after writing a document about ConTeXt.


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Re: bug in nothyphenated?

[Andres Conrado]

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2015-09-23 5:00 GMT-05:00 <ntg-context-request@ntg.nl>:

> \ConTeXt


This maybe is not very important to you, but, as a designer, I see \ConTeXt
as a logotype, so, it's not supposed to be hyphenated.

Andrés Conrado Montoya
El Andi
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