* processing very big tables
@ 2017-04-09 11:20 Thomas A. Schmitz
2017-04-09 13:57 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2017-04-09 11:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi all,
I need some fundamental advice from experienced users: I'm processing
xml and collecting the data in lua tables, which I want to typeset in
some sort of table or tabular format. Typesetting requirements are
fairly low, just a couple of columns that need to be nicely aligned,
with the occasional horizontal overflow that should be handled
gracefully (i.e. longer lines should be broken), and of course, the
table has to break across pages. However, the lua tables have several
thousands of entries, and I expect the final document to have around
3,000 pages. When I tried Natural Tables, I got a "TeX capacity
exceeded" error, which disappeared when I tried with a smaller part of
my document. So my question is: what is the most "inexpensive" way of
typesetting this sort of material? One of the table environments? Which
one (would xtables be better?)? Or low-level vboxes within hboxes etc.?
Or just \framed within \framed? What would you suggest for this sort of
material?
Thanks for your insights!
Thomas
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* Re: processing very big tables
2017-04-09 11:20 processing very big tables Thomas A. Schmitz
@ 2017-04-09 13:57 ` Hans Hagen
2017-04-09 14:53 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2017-04-10 14:25 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2017-04-09 13:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 4/9/2017 1:20 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I need some fundamental advice from experienced users: I'm processing
> xml and collecting the data in lua tables, which I want to typeset in
> some sort of table or tabular format. Typesetting requirements are
> fairly low, just a couple of columns that need to be nicely aligned,
> with the occasional horizontal overflow that should be handled
> gracefully (i.e. longer lines should be broken), and of course, the
> table has to break across pages. However, the lua tables have several
> thousands of entries, and I expect the final document to have around
> 3,000 pages. When I tried Natural Tables, I got a "TeX capacity
> exceeded" error, which disappeared when I tried with a smaller part of
> my document. So my question is: what is the most "inexpensive" way of
> typesetting this sort of material? One of the table environments? Which
> one (would xtables be better?)? Or low-level vboxes within hboxes etc.?
> Or just \framed within \framed? What would you suggest for this sort of
> material?
\starttext
\setuplinetable[n=2,lines=25]
\setuplinetable[c][1][width=6cm] %
,background=color,backgroundcolor=red,color=white]
\setuplinetable[c][1][width=6cm] %
,background=color,backgroundcolor=red,color=white]
\setuplinetable[1][all][background=color,backgroundcolor=white]
\dontcomplain
\startlinetable
\dorecurse{100}{
\dorecurse{100}{
\NC aaa \NC test test test test \NC \NR
}
}
\stoplinetable
\page
% \startluacode
% local context = context
% local NC = context.NC
% local NR = context.NR
% context.startlinetable()
% for i=1,100 do
% for i=1,100 do
% NC()
% context("aaa")
% NC()
% context("test test test test")
% NC()
% NR()
% end
% context.stoplinetable()
% \stopluacode
\stoptext
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* Re: processing very big tables
2017-04-09 13:57 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2017-04-09 14:53 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2017-04-11 8:02 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2017-04-10 14:25 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
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From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2017-04-09 14:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 04/09/2017 03:57 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> \starttext
>
> \setuplinetable[n=2,lines=25]
> \setuplinetable[c][1][width=6cm] %
> ,background=color,backgroundcolor=red,color=white]
> \setuplinetable[c][1][width=6cm] %
> ,background=color,backgroundcolor=red,color=white]
> \setuplinetable[1][all][background=color,backgroundcolor=white]
>
> \dontcomplain
Alright, so the answer is: "use linetables!" Thanks, Hans: I will play
with them and report back!
Thomas
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* Re: processing very big tables
2017-04-09 13:57 ` Hans Hagen
2017-04-09 14:53 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
@ 2017-04-10 14:25 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2017-04-10 15:07 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2017-04-10 14:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 09.04.2017 15:57, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
> \starttext
>
> \setuplinetable[n=2,lines=25]
> \setuplinetable[c][1][width=6cm] %
> ,background=color,backgroundcolor=red,color=white]
> \setuplinetable[c][1][width=6cm] %
> ,background=color,backgroundcolor=red,color=white]
> \setuplinetable[1][all][background=color,backgroundcolor=white]
>
> \dontcomplain
>
> \startlinetable
> \dorecurse{100}{
> \dorecurse{100}{
> \NC aaa \NC test test test test \NC \NR
> }
> }
> \stoplinetable
>
> \page
Alright, I experimented a bit and am back with questions I couldn't
solve by looking at the source:
1. How does the parameter lines=NUMBER work? If I set it, I get very
weird page breaks in some locations and lines that are printed above
each other in other places. When I leave it out, the table isn't typeset
at all. I can't find the right parameter to have the table fill the
entire page.
2. Is it possible to get horizontal and vertical lines?
Thomas
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* Re: processing very big tables
2017-04-10 14:25 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
@ 2017-04-10 15:07 ` Hans Hagen
2017-04-10 15:20 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2017-04-11 9:53 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2017-04-10 15:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 4/10/2017 4:25 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> On 09.04.2017 15:57, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> \setuplinetable[n=2,lines=25]
>> \setuplinetable[c][1][width=6cm] %
>> ,background=color,backgroundcolor=red,color=white]
>> \setuplinetable[c][1][width=6cm] %
>> ,background=color,backgroundcolor=red,color=white]
>> \setuplinetable[1][all][background=color,backgroundcolor=white]
>>
>> \dontcomplain
>>
>> \startlinetable
>> \dorecurse{100}{
>> \dorecurse{100}{
>> \NC aaa \NC test test test test \NC \NR
>> }
>> }
>> \stoplinetable
>>
>> \page
>
> Alright, I experimented a bit and am back with questions I couldn't
> solve by looking at the source:
>
> 1. How does the parameter lines=NUMBER work? If I set it, I get very
> weird page breaks in some locations and lines that are printed above
> each other in other places. When I leave it out, the table isn't typeset
> at all. I can't find the right parameter to have the table fill the
> entire page.
don't set it then (line tables are actually able to span pages
horizontally)
> 2. Is it possible to get horizontal and vertical lines?
hm, currently not, but i can probably add some features
Hans
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* Re: processing very big tables
2017-04-10 15:07 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2017-04-10 15:20 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2017-04-11 9:53 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
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From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2017-04-10 15:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 10.04.2017 17:07, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
> don't set it then (line tables are actually able to span pages
> horizontally)
nope, when I don't set it, I don't get a table typeset...
> hm, currently not, but i can probably add some features
would be awesome, if you have the time!
Thomas
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* Re: processing very big tables
2017-04-09 14:53 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
@ 2017-04-11 8:02 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2017-04-11 14:17 ` Alan Braslau
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2017-04-11 8:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 2017-04-09 um 16:53 schrieb Thomas A. Schmitz <thomas.schmitz@uni-bonn.de>:
> On 04/09/2017 03:57 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> \starttext
>>
>> \setuplinetable[n=2,lines=25]
>> \setuplinetable[c][1][width=6cm] %
>> ,background=color,backgroundcolor=red,color=white]
>> \setuplinetable[c][1][width=6cm] %
>> ,background=color,backgroundcolor=red,color=white]
>> \setuplinetable[1][all][background=color,backgroundcolor=white]
>>
>> \dontcomplain
>
> Alright, so the answer is: "use linetables!" Thanks, Hans: I will play with them and report back!
Hm, at the meeting it looked like we should/could now use xtables for everything?
Did I misunderstand you, Hans, that xtables can replace all the other kinds of tables?
I assumed linetables were just another try and we could forget about them (you didn’t say that), and now you’re willing to add features, I’m a bit confused.
Greetlings, Hraban
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* Re: processing very big tables
2017-04-10 15:07 ` Hans Hagen
2017-04-10 15:20 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
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2017-04-11 10:27 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
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From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2017-04-11 9:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 10.04.2017 17:07, Hans Hagen wrote:
> don't set it then (line tables are actually able to span pages
> horizontally)
Hans, just in case it's useful: I have a small test file that shows my
problem with linetables. The data comes from xml (of course...), but I
have simply captured it in a lua table (in alphabet.lua). Look at p. 4,
10, 11, etc.
All best
Thomas
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* Re: processing very big tables
2017-04-11 9:53 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
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From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2017-04-11 10:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 11.04.2017 11:53, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>
> Hans, just in case it's useful: I have a small test file that shows my
> problem with linetables. The data comes from xml (of course...), but I
> have simply captured it in a lua table (in alphabet.lua). Look at p. 4,
> 10, 11, etc.
>
> All best
>
> Thomas
Oops, sorry, this was meant for Hans personally, not for the list... We
apologize for the inconvenience...
Thomas
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* Re: processing very big tables
2017-04-11 8:02 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
@ 2017-04-11 14:17 ` Alan Braslau
2017-04-11 17:35 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Alan Braslau @ 2017-04-11 14:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Henning Hraban Ramm; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 10:02:38 +0200
Henning Hraban Ramm <hraban@fiee.net> wrote:
> Hm, at the meeting it looked like we should/could now use xtables for
> everything? Did I misunderstand you, Hans, that xtables can replace
> all the other kinds of tables?
Perhaps this is a bug that could be fixed, but I have found that *only*
natural tables (\bTABLE...\eTABLE) can be safely used within a (figure)
caption, all other table or tabulation environments have given me
errors.
Alan
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* Re: processing very big tables
2017-04-11 14:17 ` Alan Braslau
@ 2017-04-11 17:35 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2017-04-11 17:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users, Henning Hraban Ramm
On 4/11/2017 4:17 PM, Alan Braslau wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 10:02:38 +0200
> Henning Hraban Ramm <hraban@fiee.net> wrote:
>
>> Hm, at the meeting it looked like we should/could now use xtables for
>> everything? Did I misunderstand you, Hans, that xtables can replace
>> all the other kinds of tables?
>
> Perhaps this is a bug that could be fixed, but I have found that *only*
> natural tables (\bTABLE...\eTABLE) can be safely used within a (figure)
> caption, all other table or tabulation environments have given me
> errors.
it's more a tex issue ... just wrap a something more complex in a \vbox
Hans
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