ConTeXt to RTF Conversion

ConTeXt to RTF Conversion

[Louis F.Springer]

What are the options for conversion from ConTeXt to other formats, if  
any? I'm particularly interested in rtf and/or html.

Lou

Re: ConTeXt to RTF Conversion

[andrea valle]

I've asked too, but it seems that that there are none to rtf.
This lack of conversion is a problem for me.
latex2rtf was very useful for me becasue in that way I was able to use 
always latex for my writings.
Now, I'm using only ConTeXt, but in case of a paper not for tex-based 
review, I will have to go back to TextEdit or M$word. And I'm not able 
to reuase directly what I wrote.
I was mumbling  about creating a simple converter by myself, but I am 
totally ignorant about rtf, and I am a context newby, so...

-a-


On 21 Sep 2005, at 17:12, Louis F.Springer wrote:

> What are the options for conversion from ConTeXt to other formats, if 
> any? I'm particularly interested in rtf and/or html.
>
> Lou
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Andrea Valle
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Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione
Università degli Studi di Torino
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Re: ConTeXt to RTF Conversion

[Pr. Erich Fickel]

andrea valle wrote:
> I've asked too, but it seems that that there are none to rtf.
> This lack of conversion is a problem for me.

Would it be possible for you to use any of the software that converts 
PDF to RTF? Write in Context. When you need RTF you convert the PDF to 
RTF instead of the TEX.

-Erich Fickel
-- newbie to context and tex, reading TeXbook and Context manual


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Re: ConTeXt to RTF Conversion

[Mojca Miklavec]

Louis F.Springer wrote:
> What are the options for conversion from ConTeXt to other formats, if  
> any? I'm particularly interested in rtf and/or html.

The main problem is: PDF is extremely complex format (and Hans tries to 
explore almost every single capability of it) and you can't grant a good 
conversion for obscure documents. You can't get html out of the box, but 
there are some options depending on what your documents look like, what 
effort are you ready to invest and what quality of HTML/RTF you expect.

(I can't imagine a tool which would satisfactory convert the ConTeXt 
manuals into HTML without manual intervention.)

1. The best quality can be achieved if you prepare all your stuff in XML 
and then write both a stylesheet for conversion into HTML and "a couple" 
of ConTeXt definitions to handle formating for output in PDF documents. 
I never did that (I consider it too complex and time consuming), but if 
you're ready to go that way and sacrifice some time, there are some 
people on the list who can help you.

2. exTeX is going to natively support HTML output. The question is when 
a stable version is going to appear and if ConTeXt will ever support it 
/ if they will support ConTeXt. (not a satisfactory answer yet)

3. latex2html, latex2word, tth - like

No, no such tool yet and I doubt that anyone is going to write it soon.

4. PDF -> HTML / PDF -> RTF conversion

Currently the best possibility if you have simple documents, you don't 
want to spend too much time on it and you don't mind too much about high 
quality of the produced HTML/RTF.

I often use pdftotext and then manually reformat everything (not for my 
own documents however), but I was impressed by the quality of what ABBYY 
PDF Transformer was able to do with sample documents that I saw (it 
converts a table in PDF into a table in Word, preserves images and page 
layout, ...).

About the accents that Idris mentioned: As long as the accented 
characters aren't faked, there is a way to get them out of PDF.

Mojca

Re: ConTeXt to RTF Conversion

[Adam Lindsay]

Mojca Miklavec said this at Wed, 21 Sep 2005 22:09:32 +0200:

>1. The best quality can be achieved if you prepare all your stuff in XML 
>and then write both a stylesheet for conversion into HTML and "a couple" 
>of ConTeXt definitions to handle formating for output in PDF documents. 
>I never did that (I consider it too complex and time consuming), but if 
>you're ready to go that way and sacrifice some time, there are some 
>people on the list who can help you.

very much agreed here. I'd personally advocate an intermediate XML
format (that matches your document needs), and transforming to Word-
friendly HTML or to a ConTeXt-friendly format.

For a taste of some XML workflows, see:
<http://pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/example.pdf> 
<http://pragma-ade.com/general/magazines/mag-0008.pdf>
and talk with the list!
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Re: ConTeXt to RTF Conversion

[andrea valle]

Thanks, I' ve never thought about that.
Does anyone know about a free pdf2rtf converter for macosx?

Best
-a-

On 21 Sep 2005, at 17:58, Pr. Erich Fickel wrote:

> andrea valle wrote:
>> I've asked too, but it seems that that there are none to rtf.
>> This lack of conversion is a problem for me.
>
> Would it be possible for you to use any of the software that converts 
> PDF to RTF? Write in Context. When you need RTF you convert the PDF to 
> RTF instead of the TEX.
>
> -Erich Fickel
> -- newbie to context and tex, reading TeXbook and Context manual
>
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Università degli Studi di Torino
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Re: ConTeXt to RTF Conversion (tex4ht)

[Maurice Diamantini]

Le 21 sept. 05 à 17:12, Louis F.Springer a écrit :

> What are the options for conversion from ConTeXt to other formats,  
> if any? I'm particularly interested in rtf and/or html.

I saw there is a module tex4ht usable for converting conTeXt to html.

    http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Modules
    http://source.contextgarden.net/tex/context/base/m-tex4ht.tex

Does anyboby have any experience to share on it?
I didn't find anything about it in the wiki.

About the other answer on this subject, my (dummy) point of view is
that :

   - pdf in not an input format, but an output format,
     (difficult to reuse for translating)
   - xml in not an input format but (a well structured) interchange  
format.

I don't want to enter xml version of:

    We know that $E=mC^2$ and also that $\delta = \sqrt{b^2-4ac}$

But I'd like to export it (with table of content, index, ...)
in html or xhtml.

-- Maurice

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