* Obtaining features from EBGaramond font in ConTeXt @ 2015-10-23 7:44 josephcanedo 2015-10-23 14:23 ` Rik Kabel 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: josephcanedo @ 2015-10-23 7:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 347 bytes --] Hello all, Wondered if you could figure out what I did wrong with specifying the font. Asked question on TexExchange.org already, with samples. http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/274471/obtaining-features-from-ebgaramond-font-in-context I use texlive 2015 on Windows 8.1 Many thanks, Best regards Joseph Canedo [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 1623 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 485 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Obtaining features from EBGaramond font in ConTeXt 2015-10-23 7:44 Obtaining features from EBGaramond font in ConTeXt josephcanedo @ 2015-10-23 14:23 ` Rik Kabel 2015-10-23 19:19 ` josephcanedo 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Rik Kabel @ 2015-10-23 14:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1852 bytes --] On 2015-10-23 03:44, josephcanedo@gmail.com wrote: > Hello all, > > Wondered if you could figure out what I did wrong with specifying the > font. > Asked question on TexExchange.org already, with samples. > > http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/274471/obtaining-features-from-ebgaramond-font-in-context > > I use texlive 2015 on Windows 8.1 > > Many thanks, > > Best regards > > Joseph Canedo > > First, some small changes to your example. Remove the enableregime directive; ConTeXt MKIV, which you appear to be using, does not use this. It is from ConTeXt MKII. Next, modify the definefontfeature and definefontfamily commands as shown. (The default features for the font are in the file type-imp-ebgaramond.mkiv.) That should be it to get started. \language[fr] % french hyphenation *\definefontfeature[myfeatures][ss02=yes,cv01=yes,cv03=yes,ss05=yes,cv91=yes]* *\definefontfamily[mainfont][serif][EBGaramond][features={default,myfeatures}]** *\setupbodyfont[mainfont, 8pt]* * \starttext session univers Que Quelconque Joseph ¶ \stoptext TL15 has problems with EBGaramond. The best you will get is: With a more recent standalone version, you will get: If you are setting older texts, you may also want to take advantage of ConTeXt’s ability to automatically provide space before large punctuation characters using the definecharacterspacing command. One other note. Character variant 01 (cv01) is a very dull sword. The rules for the use of long-ſ are much too complex for it to handle. For a good overview of the issues, see Andrew West’s article in the TUGboat at https://www.tug.org/TUGboat/tb32-1/tb100west.pdf. In my opinion you are better off learning to insert it as needed in the text. -- Rik [-- Attachment #1.2.1: Type: text/html, Size: 4741 bytes --] [-- Attachment #1.2.2: edjfaiia.png --] [-- Type: image/png, Size: 5972 bytes --] [-- Attachment #1.2.3: dajaigih.png --] [-- Type: image/png, Size: 5802 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 485 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Obtaining features from EBGaramond font in ConTeXt 2015-10-23 14:23 ` Rik Kabel @ 2015-10-23 19:19 ` josephcanedo 2015-10-23 19:49 ` Rik Kabel 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: josephcanedo @ 2015-10-23 19:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2213 bytes --] Thanks Rik, I’ll install standalone ConTeXt along TexLive then. Is there any place I could find docs on \definecharacterspacing command please ? Could not find any occurrence on the Wiki. Many thanks Best regards Joseph Sent from Windows Mail From: Rik Kabel Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 4:23 PM To: ntg-context@ntg.nl On 2015-10-23 03:44, josephcanedo@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, Wondered if you could figure out what I did wrong with specifying the font. Asked question on TexExchange.org already, with samples. http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/274471/obtaining-features-from-ebgaramond-font-in-context I use texlive 2015 on Windows 8.1 Many thanks, Best regards Joseph Canedo First, some small changes to your example. Remove the enableregime directive; ConTeXt MKIV, which you appear to be using, does not use this. It is from ConTeXt MKII. Next, modify the definefontfeature and definefontfamily commands as shown. (The default features for the font are in the file type-imp-ebgaramond.mkiv.) That should be it to get started. \language[fr] % french hyphenation \definefontfeature[myfeatures][ss02=yes,cv01=yes,cv03=yes,ss05=yes,cv91=yes] \definefontfamily[mainfont][serif][EBGaramond][features={default,myfeatures}] \setupbodyfont[mainfont, 8pt] \starttext session univers Que Quelconque Joseph ¶ \stoptext TL15 has problems with EBGaramond. The best you will get is: With a more recent standalone version, you will get: If you are setting older texts, you may also want to take advantage of ConTeXt’s ability to automatically provide space before large punctuation characters using the definecharacterspacing command. One other note. Character variant 01 (cv01) is a very dull sword. The rules for the use of long-ſ are much too complex for it to handle. For a good overview of the issues, see Andrew West’s article in the TUGboat at https://www.tug.org/TUGboat/tb32-1/tb100west.pdf. In my opinion you are better off learning to insert it as needed in the text. -- Rik [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 6017 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: edjfaiia.png --] [-- Type: image/png, Size: 5972 bytes --] [-- Attachment #3: dajaigih.png --] [-- Type: image/png, Size: 5802 bytes --] [-- Attachment #4: Type: text/plain, Size: 485 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Obtaining features from EBGaramond font in ConTeXt 2015-10-23 19:19 ` josephcanedo @ 2015-10-23 19:49 ` Rik Kabel 2015-10-23 20:47 ` josephcanedo 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Rik Kabel @ 2015-10-23 19:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 762 bytes --] On 2015-10-23 15:19, josephcanedo@gmail.com wrote: > > Is there any place I could find docs on \definecharacterspacing > command please ? Could not find any occurrence on the Wiki. > The best description I have seen of it is in Wolfgang’s message on the mailing list at http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context%40ntg.nl/msg77942.html (or http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2015/081569.html if you prefer pipermail navigation). Basically, define the spacings you want with \definecharacterspacing[myspacing][…][…=…,…=…] and put them in play with \setcharacterspacing[myspacing]. Do it within a group to have it apply only within that group, or apply it globally. Sorry, no help here for the installation issue. -- Rik [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 2665 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 485 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Obtaining features from EBGaramond font in ConTeXt 2015-10-23 19:49 ` Rik Kabel @ 2015-10-23 20:47 ` josephcanedo 2015-10-23 21:33 ` Rik 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: josephcanedo @ 2015-10-23 20:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1308 bytes --] At the moment, I use “\,” between word and question marks. Also “~” between word and “:”. I guess the \definecharacterspacing is more flexible and transparent from text input point of view (only write normal space). IIRC both \, and ~ also avoids line breaking at their location. Is there a way to specify this too please ? Thanks a lot for your valuable help, Joseph Sent from Windows Mail From: Rik Kabel Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 9:49 PM To: ntg-context@ntg.nl On 2015-10-23 15:19, josephcanedo@gmail.com wrote: Is there any place I could find docs on \definecharacterspacing command please ? Could not find any occurrence on the Wiki. The best description I have seen of it is in Wolfgang’s message on the mailing list at http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context%40ntg.nl/msg77942.html (or http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2015/081569.html if you prefer pipermail navigation). Basically, define the spacings you want with \definecharacterspacing[myspacing][…][…=…,…=…] and put them in play with \setcharacterspacing[myspacing]. Do it within a group to have it apply only within that group, or apply it globally. Sorry, no help here for the installation issue. -- Rik [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 3916 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 485 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Obtaining features from EBGaramond font in ConTeXt 2015-10-23 20:47 ` josephcanedo @ 2015-10-23 21:33 ` Rik 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Rik @ 2015-10-23 21:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1703 bytes --] On 2015-10-23 16:47, josephcanedo@gmail.com wrote: > At the moment, I use “\,” between word and question marks. Also “~” > between word and “:”. I guess the \definecharacterspacing is more > flexible and transparent from text input point of view (only write > normal space). IIRC both \, and ~ also avoids line breaking at their > location. Is there a way to specify this too please ? > The characterspacing commands can take care of it. The following example demonstrates this (I used the value 2 just to make it clear what is happening). It appears that alternative=1 inhibits breaks, while alternative=0 (or leaving alternative= out completely) allows breaks. I have not seen documentation; what I know about it comes from tests like the example below. \definecharacterspacing[test] \setupcharacterspacing[test]["003A][left=2,alternative=1] % : \setupcharacterspacing[test]["003B][left=2,alternative=0] % ; \setupcharacterspacing[test]["00BF][right=2,alternative=0] % ¿ \starttext \hsize4cm xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:\par xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx :\par ¿xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;\par ¿ xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ;\par \setcharacterspacing[test] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:\par xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx :\par ¿xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;\par ¿ xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ;\par \stoptext (Many ConTeXt commands have a \defineABC[somename] and a \setupABC[somename][options=…]. This can often, as is the case with characterspacing, be shortened into one command, \defineABC[somename][options=…], but I think not always.) -- Rik [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 3566 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 485 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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