* Obtaining features from EBGaramond font in ConTeXt
@ 2015-10-23 7:44 josephcanedo
2015-10-23 14:23 ` Rik Kabel
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Hello all,
Wondered if you could figure out what I did wrong with specifying the font.
Asked question on TexExchange.org already, with samples.
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/274471/obtaining-features-from-ebgaramond-font-in-context
I use texlive 2015 on Windows 8.1
Many thanks,
Best regards
Joseph Canedo
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* Re: Obtaining features from EBGaramond font in ConTeXt
2015-10-23 7:44 Obtaining features from EBGaramond font in ConTeXt josephcanedo
@ 2015-10-23 14:23 ` Rik Kabel
2015-10-23 19:19 ` josephcanedo
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From: Rik Kabel @ 2015-10-23 14:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 2015-10-23 03:44, josephcanedo@gmail.com wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Wondered if you could figure out what I did wrong with specifying the
> font.
> Asked question on TexExchange.org already, with samples.
>
> http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/274471/obtaining-features-from-ebgaramond-font-in-context
>
> I use texlive 2015 on Windows 8.1
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Best regards
>
> Joseph Canedo
>
>
First, some small changes to your example. Remove the enableregime
directive; ConTeXt MKIV, which you appear to be using, does not use
this. It is from ConTeXt MKII. Next, modify the definefontfeature and
definefontfamily commands as shown. (The default features for the font
are in the file type-imp-ebgaramond.mkiv.) That should be it to get started.
\language[fr] % french hyphenation
*\definefontfeature[myfeatures][ss02=yes,cv01=yes,cv03=yes,ss05=yes,cv91=yes]*
*\definefontfamily[mainfont][serif][EBGaramond][features={default,myfeatures}]**
*\setupbodyfont[mainfont, 8pt]*
*
\starttext
session
univers
Que
Quelconque
Joseph
¶
\stoptext
TL15 has problems with EBGaramond. The best you will get is:
With a more recent standalone version, you will get:
If you are setting older texts, you may also want to take advantage of
ConTeXt’s ability to automatically provide space before large
punctuation characters using the definecharacterspacing command.
One other note. Character variant 01 (cv01) is a very dull sword. The
rules for the use of long-ſ are much too complex for it to handle. For a
good overview of the issues, see Andrew West’s article in the TUGboat at
https://www.tug.org/TUGboat/tb32-1/tb100west.pdf. In my opinion you are
better off learning to insert it as needed in the text.
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* Re: Obtaining features from EBGaramond font in ConTeXt
2015-10-23 14:23 ` Rik Kabel
@ 2015-10-23 19:19 ` josephcanedo
2015-10-23 19:49 ` Rik Kabel
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From: josephcanedo @ 2015-10-23 19:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Thanks Rik,
I’ll install standalone ConTeXt along TexLive then.
Is there any place I could find docs on \definecharacterspacing command please ? Could not find any occurrence on the Wiki.
Many thanks
Best regards
Joseph
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From: Rik Kabel
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 4:23 PM
To: ntg-context@ntg.nl
On 2015-10-23 03:44, josephcanedo@gmail.com wrote:
Hello all,
Wondered if you could figure out what I did wrong with specifying the font.
Asked question on TexExchange.org already, with samples.
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/274471/obtaining-features-from-ebgaramond-font-in-context
I use texlive 2015 on Windows 8.1
Many thanks,
Best regards
Joseph Canedo
First, some small changes to your example. Remove the enableregime directive; ConTeXt MKIV, which you appear to be using, does not use this. It is from ConTeXt MKII. Next, modify the definefontfeature and definefontfamily commands as shown. (The default features for the font are in the file type-imp-ebgaramond.mkiv.) That should be it to get started.
\language[fr] % french hyphenation
\definefontfeature[myfeatures][ss02=yes,cv01=yes,cv03=yes,ss05=yes,cv91=yes]
\definefontfamily[mainfont][serif][EBGaramond][features={default,myfeatures}]
\setupbodyfont[mainfont, 8pt]
\starttext
session
univers
Que
Quelconque
Joseph
¶
\stoptext
TL15 has problems with EBGaramond. The best you will get is:
With a more recent standalone version, you will get:
If you are setting older texts, you may also want to take advantage of ConTeXt’s ability to automatically provide space before large punctuation characters using the definecharacterspacing command.
One other note. Character variant 01 (cv01) is a very dull sword. The rules for the use of long-ſ are much too complex for it to handle. For a good overview of the issues, see Andrew West’s article in the TUGboat at https://www.tug.org/TUGboat/tb32-1/tb100west.pdf. In my opinion you are better off learning to insert it as needed in the text.
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* Re: Obtaining features from EBGaramond font in ConTeXt
2015-10-23 19:19 ` josephcanedo
@ 2015-10-23 19:49 ` Rik Kabel
2015-10-23 20:47 ` josephcanedo
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From: Rik Kabel @ 2015-10-23 19:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 2015-10-23 15:19, josephcanedo@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Is there any place I could find docs on \definecharacterspacing
> command please ? Could not find any occurrence on the Wiki.
>
The best description I have seen of it is in Wolfgang’s message on the
mailing list at
http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context%40ntg.nl/msg77942.html (or
http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2015/081569.html if you prefer
pipermail navigation). Basically, define the spacings you want with
\definecharacterspacing[myspacing][…][…=…,…=…] and put them in play with
\setcharacterspacing[myspacing]. Do it within a group to have it apply
only within that group, or apply it globally.
Sorry, no help here for the installation issue.
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* Re: Obtaining features from EBGaramond font in ConTeXt
2015-10-23 19:49 ` Rik Kabel
@ 2015-10-23 20:47 ` josephcanedo
2015-10-23 21:33 ` Rik
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From: josephcanedo @ 2015-10-23 20:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
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At the moment, I use “\,” between word and question marks. Also “~” between word and “:”. I guess the \definecharacterspacing is more flexible and transparent from text input point of view (only write normal space). IIRC both \, and ~ also avoids line breaking at their location. Is there a way to specify this too please ?
Thanks a lot for your valuable help,
Joseph
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From: Rik Kabel
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 9:49 PM
To: ntg-context@ntg.nl
On 2015-10-23 15:19, josephcanedo@gmail.com wrote:
Is there any place I could find docs on \definecharacterspacing command please ? Could not find any occurrence on the Wiki.
The best description I have seen of it is in Wolfgang’s message on the mailing list at http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context%40ntg.nl/msg77942.html (or http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2015/081569.html if you prefer pipermail navigation). Basically, define the spacings you want with \definecharacterspacing[myspacing][…][…=…,…=…] and put them in play with \setcharacterspacing[myspacing]. Do it within a group to have it apply only within that group, or apply it globally.
Sorry, no help here for the installation issue.
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Rik
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* Re: Obtaining features from EBGaramond font in ConTeXt
2015-10-23 20:47 ` josephcanedo
@ 2015-10-23 21:33 ` Rik
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On 2015-10-23 16:47, josephcanedo@gmail.com wrote:
> At the moment, I use “\,” between word and question marks. Also “~”
> between word and “:”. I guess the \definecharacterspacing is more
> flexible and transparent from text input point of view (only write
> normal space). IIRC both \, and ~ also avoids line breaking at their
> location. Is there a way to specify this too please ?
>
The characterspacing commands can take care of it. The following example
demonstrates this (I used the value 2 just to make it clear what is
happening). It appears that alternative=1 inhibits breaks, while
alternative=0 (or leaving alternative= out completely) allows breaks. I
have not seen documentation; what I know about it comes from tests like
the example below.
\definecharacterspacing[test]
\setupcharacterspacing[test]["003A][left=2,alternative=1] % :
\setupcharacterspacing[test]["003B][left=2,alternative=0] % ;
\setupcharacterspacing[test]["00BF][right=2,alternative=0] % ¿
\starttext
\hsize4cm
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:\par
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx :\par
¿xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;\par
¿ xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ;\par
\setcharacterspacing[test]
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:\par
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx :\par
¿xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;\par
¿ xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ;\par
\stoptext
(Many ConTeXt commands have a \defineABC[somename] and a
\setupABC[somename][options=…]. This can often, as is the case with
characterspacing, be shortened into one command,
\defineABC[somename][options=…], but I think not always.)
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