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[81.204.112.68]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fs13sm1228968wic.19.2014.10.08.01.29.04 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 08 Oct 2014 01:29:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: ntg-context@ntg.nl, base:default, @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::236; country=IE X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 06N0wt6Ta - f78d4262c36d - 20141008 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: "ntg-context" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:88882 Archived-At: --===============1767947539== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_E5D18E32-65CD-4B72-943E-13C2CD476E11" --Apple-Mail=_E5D18E32-65CD-4B72-943E-13C2CD476E11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On 6 Oct 2014, at 23:33 , Sander Maijers wrote: > Who can offer a short-term solution to this problem? All I want is to > reference a work, listing all of the authors' names, in APA6 format. = If > necessary I'll prescribe the output format manually. >=20 > Best, >=20 > Sander Maijers >=20 >>>=20 >>> = \setupbibtex[database=3D{references/bibliographic_database},sort=3Dauthor]= >>>> \setuppublications[alternative=3Dapa] >>>>=20 >>>> \starttext >>>> \cite[extras=3D{, p.~3}][Zhou2012] >>>> \cite[Zhou2012] >>>> \stoptext >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Incorrectly produces: >>>=20 >>>> (Zhou et al., 2012, p. 3) (Zhou et al., 2012) >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Instead of: >>>=20 >>>> (Zhou, Lyu, & King, 2012, p. 3) (Zhou, Lyu, & King, 2012) >>>=20 >>>=20 What I would do is, for the final processing, not to load the .bib-file = but the .bbl that was generated in the previous run. You can open that = file in any text processor (I mostly use TeXShop) and manually change = the Author for this particular entry. In the .bbl the field Author has = this form: \author[]{}[]{}{} . You should be able to solve your problem by putting inside the last pair = of brackets exactly how you would like your authors et. al. to appear in = your output. Place the whole lot again between brackets: = \author[]{}[]{}{{Zhou, Tom Chao and Lyu, Michael R. and King, Irwin}} or = whatever you want. But again, don=92t input the bib-file. Every time you do that the old = .bbl is overwritten and your correction will be lost. ConTeXt uses the = .bbl, not the .bib. I hope this helps. Best regards, Robert Blackstone --Apple-Mail=_E5D18E32-65CD-4B72-943E-13C2CD476E11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252
On 6 Oct 2014, at 23:33 , Sander = Maijers <s.n.maijers@gmail.com>
&nb= sp;wrote:

Who can offer a = short-term solution to this problem? All I want is to
reference a = work, listing all of the authors' names, in APA6 format. If
necessary = I'll prescribe the output format manually.

Best,

Sander = Maijers


\setupbibtex[database=3D{references/bibliographic_databa= se},sort=3Dauthor]
\setuppublications[alternative=3Dapa]

\starttext
=    \cite[extras=3D{, p.~3}][Zhou2012]
=    \cite[Zhou2012]
\stoptext


Inc= orrectly produces:

(Zhou et al., 2012, = p. 3) (Zhou et al., 2012)


Instead = of:

(Zhou, Lyu, & King, 2012, p. 3) = (Zhou, Lyu, & King, = 2012)



<= /div>
What I would do is, for the final processing, = not to load the .bib-file but the .bbl that was generated in the = previous run. You can open that file in any text processor (I mostly use = TeXShop) and manually change the Author for this particular entry. In = the .bbl the field Author has this form: \author[]{}[]{}{} = .

You should be able to solve your problem by = putting inside the last pair of brackets exactly how you would like your = authors et. al. to appear in your output. Place the whole lot again = between brackets:  \author[]{}[]{}{{Zhou, Tom Chao and Lyu, Michael = R. and King, Irwin}} or whatever you want.

But = again,  don=92t input the bib-file. Every time you do that the old = .bbl is overwritten and your correction will be lost. ConTeXt uses the = .bbl, not the .bib.

I hope this = helps.
Best regards,

Robert = Blackstone

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