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[2.242.29.142]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t76sm18759173wmd.13.2016.01.12.10.29.20 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 12 Jan 2016 10:29:20 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Postbox 4.0.8 (Macintosh/20151105) In-Reply-To: <20160112110715.34764b4a@cea.fr> X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: "ntg-context" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:93272 Archived-At: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============7991045486298052420== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070502010409050203090108" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070502010409050203090108 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Alan BRASLAU > 12. Januar 2016 um 19:07 > Hello, > > Jean-Michel pointed out to me the following curiosity: > > \starttext > \input tufte > \startalignment[middle] > \input ward > \stopalignment > \input tufte > \stoptext > > The startalignment applies to the preceding text, too. Strange... It=E2=80=99s a normal behaviour for TeX, the question is should \startali= gnment=20 end the previous paragraph or not. > I never noticed this before as I have the habit of coding > \startalignment\stopalignment blocks set-off with leading and trailing > blank lines for better readability. But such practice could lead to > undesired results. Consider the following example: > > \setupwhitespace [big] > > \starttext > \input tufte > > \startalignment[middle] > \input ward > \stopalignment > \input dawkins > \stoptext > > So \stopalignment implicitly imposes a \par. > If I were to omit the blank line before \startalignment so that no big > whitespace be included before the centered block, the tufte text will > get middle aligned. Also, perhaps I might not wish for the dawkins text > to be separated by a big whitespace, logically as in: You can use \startpacked =E2=80=A6 \stoppacked to suppress blank lines in= serted=20 by \setupwhitespace. Wolfgang --------------070502010409050203090108 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Alan BRASLAU
12= .=20 Januar 2016 um 19:07
He= llo,

Jean-Michel pointed out to me the following curiosity:

\starttext
\input=20 tufte
\startalignment[middle]
\input ward
\stopalignment
\inp= ut tufte
\stoptext

The startalignment applies to the preceding=20 text, too. Strange...
It=E2=80=99s a normal behaviour for TeX, the question is should \startali= gnment=20 end the previous paragraph or not.
I never noticed this before as I have the habit of coding
\st= artalignment\stopalignment blocks set-off with leading and trailing
blank lines for better=20 readability. But such practice could lead to
undesired results.=20 Consider the following example:

\setupwhitespace [big]

\sta= rttext
\input tufte

\startalignment[middle]
\input ward
\stopalignment\input dawkins
\stoptext

So \stopalignment implicitly imposes a=20 \par.
If I were to omit the blank line before \startalignment so that no big
whitespace be included before the centered block, the tufte=20 text will
get middle aligned. Also, perhaps I might not wish for the=20 dawkins text
to be separated by a big whitespace, logically as in:
You can use \startpacked =E2=80=A6 \stoppacked to suppress blank lines in= serted=20 by \setupwhitespace.

Wolfgang
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