* \quote inside \emph
@ 2016-01-16 14:26 Alan Bowen
2016-01-16 16:31 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2016-01-16 17:55 ` Aditya Mahajan
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From: Alan Bowen @ 2016-01-16 14:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
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When used in inside \emph, \quote puts the words cited into roman face.
Thus,
\starttext
\emph{The \quote{Problemata} in Medieval Times}
\emph{The \quote{\emph{Problemata}} in Medieval Times}
\stoptext
This seems odd. Should \quote not leave the style of the text as it is?
That is, should the output of line 1 not look like that of line 2?
Alan
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* Re: \quote inside \emph
2016-01-16 14:26 \quote inside \emph Alan Bowen
@ 2016-01-16 16:31 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2016-01-16 18:03 ` Alan Bowen
2016-01-16 17:55 ` Aditya Mahajan
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2016-01-16 16:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> Alan Bowen <mailto:bowenalan03@gmail.com>
> 16. Januar 2016 um 15:26
> When used in inside \emph, \quote puts the words cited into roman
> face. Thus,
>
> \starttext
>
> \emph{The \quote{Problemata} in Medieval Times}
>
> \emph{The \quote{\emph{Problemata}} in Medieval Times}
>
> \stoptext
>
> This seems odd. Should \quote not leave the style of the text as it
> is? That is, should the output of line 1 not look like that of line 2?
Delimited texts (where \quote belongs to) set the upright font as
default value for the style, see also
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/286743/context-quote-command-resets-font-shape-is-this-a-bug
Wolfgang
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* Re: \quote inside \emph
2016-01-16 14:26 \quote inside \emph Alan Bowen
2016-01-16 16:31 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2016-01-16 17:55 ` Aditya Mahajan
2016-01-16 18:07 ` Alan Bowen
2016-01-17 23:56 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2016-01-16 17:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Sat, 16 Jan 2016, Alan Bowen wrote:
> When used in inside \emph, \quote puts the words cited into roman face.
> Thus,
>
> \starttext
>
> \emph{The \quote{Problemata} in Medieval Times}
>
> \emph{The \quote{\emph{Problemata}} in Medieval Times}
>
> \stoptext
>
> This seems odd. Should \quote not leave the style of the text as it is?
> That is, should the output of line 1 not look like that of line 2?
The same question was asked recently on TeX.SE
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/286743/context-quote-command-resets-font-shape-is-this-a-bug
I think that this is just a bad default. You can use:
\setupdelimitedtext[quote][style=]
Aditya
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* Re: \quote inside \emph
2016-01-16 16:31 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2016-01-16 18:03 ` Alan Bowen
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From: Alan Bowen @ 2016-01-16 18:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Thanks, Wolfgang!
Alan
On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Wolfgang Schuster <
schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:
> Alan Bowen <bowenalan03@gmail.com>
> 16. Januar 2016 um 15:26
> When used in inside \emph, \quote puts the words cited into roman face.
> Thus,
>
> \starttext
>
> \emph{The \quote{Problemata} in Medieval Times}
>
> \emph{The \quote{\emph{Problemata}} in Medieval Times}
>
> \stoptext
>
> This seems odd. Should \quote not leave the style of the text as it is?
> That is, should the output of line 1 not look like that of line 2?
>
> Delimited texts (where \quote belongs to) set the upright font as default
> value for the style, see also
> http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/286743/context-quote-command-resets-font-shape-is-this-a-bug
>
> Wolfgang
>
>
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* Re: \quote inside \emph
2016-01-16 17:55 ` Aditya Mahajan
@ 2016-01-16 18:07 ` Alan Bowen
2016-01-17 23:56 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Alan Bowen @ 2016-01-16 18:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
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I am inclined to agree, Aditya. At least it *is* odd in English typography.
Still thanks for the fix.
Alan
On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu> wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Jan 2016, Alan Bowen wrote:
>
> When used in inside \emph, \quote puts the words cited into roman face.
>> Thus,
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> \emph{The \quote{Problemata} in Medieval Times}
>>
>> \emph{The \quote{\emph{Problemata}} in Medieval Times}
>>
>> \stoptext
>>
>> This seems odd. Should \quote not leave the style of the text as it is?
>> That is, should the output of line 1 not look like that of line 2?
>>
>
> The same question was asked recently on TeX.SE
> http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/286743/context-quote-command-resets-font-shape-is-this-a-bug
>
> I think that this is just a bad default. You can use:
>
> \setupdelimitedtext[quote][style=]
>
> Aditya
>
>
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* Re: \quote inside \emph
2016-01-16 17:55 ` Aditya Mahajan
2016-01-16 18:07 ` Alan Bowen
@ 2016-01-17 23:56 ` Hans Hagen
2016-01-18 0:06 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2016-01-17 23:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On 1/16/2016 6:55 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Jan 2016, Alan Bowen wrote:
>
>> When used in inside \emph, \quote puts the words cited into roman face.
>> Thus,
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> \emph{The \quote{Problemata} in Medieval Times}
>>
>> \emph{The \quote{\emph{Problemata}} in Medieval Times}
>>
>> \stoptext
>>
>> This seems odd. Should \quote not leave the style of the text as it is?
>> That is, should the output of line 1 not look like that of line 2?
>
> The same question was asked recently on TeX.SE
> http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/286743/context-quote-command-resets-font-shape-is-this-a-bug
>
>
> I think that this is just a bad default. You can use:
>
> \setupdelimitedtext[quote][style=]
we could change it (i don't care too much as i've never use them nested)
up to you/wolfgang/... to decide
Hans
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* Re: \quote inside \emph
2016-01-17 23:56 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2016-01-18 0:06 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2016-01-18 2:19 ` Aditya Mahajan
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2016-01-18 0:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> Hans Hagen <mailto:pragma@wxs.nl>
> 18. Januar 2016 um 00:56
>
>
> we could change it (i don't care too much as i've never use them nested)
>
> up to you/wolfgang/... to decide
Remove the default setting and for completeness sake add style/color
settings to the paragraph alternative.
\unexpanded\def\typo_delimited_par
{\groupedcommand
{\dostarttaggedchained\t!delimited\currentdelimitedtext\??delimitedtext
% block?
\typo_delimited_handle_left\c!left
+ \usedelimitedtextstyleandcolor\c!style\c!color
\dostarttagged\t!delimitedcontent\empty}
{\dostoptagged
\typo_delimited_handle_right\c!right
\removelastskip
\dostoptagged
\typo_delimited_pop}}
Wolfgang
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* Re: \quote inside \emph
2016-01-18 0:06 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2016-01-18 2:19 ` Aditya Mahajan
2016-01-18 10:17 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2016-01-18 2:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Mon, 18 Jan 2016, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>> Hans Hagen <mailto:pragma@wxs.nl>
>> 18. Januar 2016 um 00:56
>>
>>
>> we could change it (i don't care too much as i've never use them nested)
>>
>> up to you/wolfgang/... to decide
> Remove the default setting and for completeness sake add style/color settings
> to the paragraph alternative.
>
> \unexpanded\def\typo_delimited_par
> {\groupedcommand
> {\dostarttaggedchained\t!delimited\currentdelimitedtext\??delimitedtext
> % block?
> \typo_delimited_handle_left\c!left
> + \usedelimitedtextstyleandcolor\c!style\c!color
> \dostarttagged\t!delimitedcontent\empty}
> {\dostoptagged
> \typo_delimited_handle_right\c!right
> \removelastskip
> \dostoptagged
> \typo_delimited_pop}}
I agree. Removing the default setting (style=normal) will be the simplest
solution.
Aditya
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* Re: \quote inside \emph
2016-01-18 2:19 ` Aditya Mahajan
@ 2016-01-18 10:17 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2016-01-18 10:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On 1/18/2016 3:19 AM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Jan 2016, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
>>> Hans Hagen <mailto:pragma@wxs.nl>
>>> 18. Januar 2016 um 00:56
>>>
>>>
>>> we could change it (i don't care too much as i've never use them nested)
>>>
>>> up to you/wolfgang/... to decide
>> Remove the default setting and for completeness sake add style/color
>> settings to the paragraph alternative.
>>
>> \unexpanded\def\typo_delimited_par
>> {\groupedcommand
>>
>> {\dostarttaggedchained\t!delimited\currentdelimitedtext\??delimitedtext %
>> block?
>> \typo_delimited_handle_left\c!left
>> + \usedelimitedtextstyleandcolor\c!style\c!color
>> \dostarttagged\t!delimitedcontent\empty}
>> {\dostoptagged
>> \typo_delimited_handle_right\c!right
>> \removelastskip
>> \dostoptagged
>> \typo_delimited_pop}}
>
> I agree. Removing the default setting (style=normal) will be the
> simplest solution.
ok (btw, in the past 'normal' was used as signal)
Hans
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