Re: right to left direction for itemize columns

Re: right to left direction for itemize columns

[Jeong Dal]

Dear  Hans,

It is nice to have this feature in the next beta.
It will help us to make multiple-choice problems.

Thank you.

Best regards,

Dalyoung

> 
> \starttext
> 
> \startitemize[horizontal,a,three]
> \startitem first \stopitem \startitem second \stopitem
> \startitem third \stopitem \startitem fourth \stopitem
> \startitem fifth \stopitem
> \stopitemize
> 
> \startitemize[horizontal,n,four]
> \startitem first \stopitem \startitem second \stopitem
> \startitem third \stopitem \startitem fourth \stopitem
> \startitem fifth \stopitem \startitem sixth \stopitem
> \startitem seventh \stopitem
> \stopitemize
> 
> \stoptext
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Re: right to left direction for itemize columns

[Mohammad Hossein Bateni]

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Hans, will this work right-to-left as well?

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 6:49 AM, Jeong Dal <haksan@me.com> wrote:

> Dear  Hans,
>
> It is nice to have this feature in the next beta.
> It will help us to make multiple-choice problems.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Dalyoung
>
> >
> > \starttext
> >
> > \startitemize[horizontal,a,three]
> > \startitem first \stopitem \startitem second \stopitem
> > \startitem third \stopitem \startitem fourth \stopitem
> > \startitem fifth \stopitem
> > \stopitemize
> >
> > \startitemize[horizontal,n,four]
> > \startitem first \stopitem \startitem second \stopitem
> > \startitem third \stopitem \startitem fourth \stopitem
> > \startitem fifth \stopitem \startitem sixth \stopitem
> > \startitem seventh \stopitem
> > \stopitemize
> >
> > \stoptext
>
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Re: two issues with interactive hyperlinks (please comment)

[Christoph Reller]

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Hi Hans,

First and foremost: Thank you for uploading the Beta! This solves the
problem I have reported with \reference and focus=standard:
 https://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context%40ntg.nl/msg79620.html

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 12:00 PM Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

>
> On 2/23/2016 12:21 AM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>
> > I think that (futhermore not being a default) ConTeXt should implemente
> > what is an ISO standard nowadays.
>
> well, i have been quite active in implementing what pdf provided and
> constantly had to adapt to what acrobat finally implemented (often the
> standard was ahead) and
>
...
>

I agree with you and Pablo: the ISO standard is what counts. And I believe
that named destinations, their use, and viewer behavior is described there
clearly.

... so one handicap for me is that i won't make test docs for it
>

I will try to provide minimal examples that I believe are so common that
the viewer behavior should be clear.

...
> > And sorry, not being the default, why is wrong reading pages in fit to
> > width mode?
>
> that one still has to make sure that there is a reasonable view area (so
> that one sees what went and comes) ... i'm not sure how you handle it
> but esp jumping from page to page in a fit width mode is quite annoying;
> fit width actually makes sense when one makes each chapter (or section)
> into one long page and i actually played with it but i found no viewer
> capable to keep the same scale each page
>

I believe that many people have to make compromises, e.g., cannot afford
the time or money to produce both a screen version and a print version of a
document. I believe that the fit-width mode is a good compromise - as long
as it is viewed in "continuous" viewing mode.

...
> > Is there anything that I can do to help? I’m especially interested in
> > this feature.
>
> small few page examples with predictable positioning and predictable
> spacing (btw, footnotes will always be sort of a pain as they are
> rendered in special ways, but footnotes should be forbidden anyway; if
> a doc is also for screen endnotes are way better)
>

I agree with you about footnotes. And, as mentioned above, I will try to
come up with decent example documents. There are still cases in my
documents that don't work and i will try to minimize these.

Thanks again for your effort!
Christoph

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Re: right to left direction for itemize columns

[Hans Hagen]

On 2/23/2016 3:01 PM, Mohammad Hossein Bateni wrote:
> Hans, will this work right-to-left as well?

afaiks yes


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Re: two issues with interactive hyperlinks (please comment)

[Alan BRASLAU]

On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 14:30:25 +0000
Christoph Reller <christoph.reller@gmail.com> wrote:

>  (btw, footnotes will always be sort of a pain as they are
> rendered in special ways, but footnotes should be forbidden anyway;
> if a doc is also for screen endnotes are way better)
> 
> I agree with you about footnotes. And, as mentioned above, I will try
> to come up with decent example documents. There are still cases in my
> documents that don't work and i will try to minimize these.

As a reader (of bound books), I very much prefer footnotes (at the
bottom of the printed page) to endnotes. I actually read footnotes so
shuffling back and forth between sections of the book can be a pain.

Of course, this is not the case for on-screen readers.

Reading on a screen one can have two approaches: either it is like
reading a book (in which case I like to use dual mode on a large screen)
or else one is reading a screen document in a continuous scroll mode
(in which case pages including headers and footers make no sense).
Using this second approach, footnotes must be used as endnotes, but
not in the first approach.

Alan
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Re: right to left direction for itemize columns

[Mohammad Hossein Bateni]

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I have resumed working on the RTL issues and have updated this page
<http://wiki.contextgarden.net/RTL> on the context garden.  All
improvements and comments are welcome.

In addition, I am putting together a set of useful macros and settings for
Persian typesetting and releasing it on github
<https://github.com/bateni/dabeer>.  Perhaps, once I am happy with certain
things, I can ask Hans to consider including some parts as patches in
ConTeXt itself.

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Otared Kavian <otared@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Mohammad-Hossein,
>
> After updating my installation of ConTeXt indeed I see that the order of
> the columns is correct. (The version I have now is
>         2016.04.27 10:18 MKIV beta  fmt: 2016.4.28
> and the previous one was version2016.04.22 09:10).
>
> Somehow I did not notice the February change you mention in your message,
> and in any case my installation was probably not really up to date.
>
> Best regards: OK
> PS: I am sorry for having changed your first name, and I apologize for
> that…
>
>
> > On 28 Apr 2016, at 09:55, Mohammad Hossein Bateni <bateni@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Otared,
> >
> > Your example works perfectly fine for me using version: 2016.04.13 16:46.
> Perhaps, you're using an older version of CONTEXT.  There was a patch in
> February enabling this.  See the output of my run attached.
> >
> > —Hossein
> >
> > P.S.  My name is Mohammad *Hossein*, not Mohammad Reza :)
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 12:41 AM, Otared Kavian <otared@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi Mohammad Reza,
> >
> > I tried your example, but it seems to me that the way the columns are
> presented when writing Right-to-Left is still incorrect. In the following
> example one should have the column containing the lines « First » and «
> Second » to the right of the column containing « Third » and « Fourth ».
> >
> > I don’t know if there is already a way to tell ConTeXt to do it in the
> right way, or Hans has to look into the righttoleft mechanism.
> > The same issue appears in the table mechanism.
> >
> > By the way, the option
> >       [direction=reverse]
> > seems to have no effect at all in Right-to-Left environment.
> >
> > %%% begin example-RtoL-reverse.tex
> > \usemodule[simplefonts]
> > \setmainfont[ALM Fixed][features=arabic,range=arabic]
> >
> > \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=two]
> > \setupalign[righttoleft]
> >
> > \starttext
> > آزمایش نوشتن از راست به چپ
> >
> > \startitemize[columns,two][direction=reverse]
> > \item First
> > \item Second
> > \item Third
> > \item Fourth
> > \stopitemize
> >
> > آزمایش نوشتن از راست به چپ
> > \startitemize[columns,two][direction=reverse]
> >
> > \startitem
> > یک
> > \stopitem
> >
> > \startitem
> > دو
> > \stopitem
> >
> > \startitem
> > سه
> > \stopitem
> >
> >
> > \startitem
> > چهار
> > \stopitem
> > \stopitemize
> > \stoptext
> > %%% end example-RtoL-reverse.tex
> >
> > Best regards: OK
> >
> >> On 27 Apr 2016, at 23:22, Mohammad Hossein Bateni <bateni@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I actually figured out that one can use the following:
> >>
> >> \startitemize[columns,two][direction=reverse]
> >> \item first
> >> \item second
> >> \item third
> >> \stopitemize
> >>
> >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Mohammad Hossein Bateni <
> bateni@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Wolfgang,
> >>
> >> Did you imply in the email below that a new key or something was added
> to \startitemize setups?  I mean, using \setupmixedcolumns works fine but
> is it possible to do this in each \startitemize individually?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Hossein
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 4:43 AM, Wolfgang Schuster <
> schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Bou Salim 21. Februar 2016 um 13:26
> >>> I have posted  a question in tex stack exchange
> >>> Customize right to left list in context
> >>>
> >>> My aim is to obtain right to left  items arranged  in  multi-column,
> if I use
> >>> \startitemize [s,columns,three] [margin=1em]
> >>> the result is three column where first column start from left side of
> page, but I want it to start from right side of page.
> >>>
> >>> I can use \startcolumns[direction=left]\startitemize \item First \item
> Second \item Third \stopitemize \stopcolumns
> >>> but I think it look better if there is a key direction=left for the
> \startitemize environment such as used in columns environment.
> >> The underlying columns mechanism has a reverse option for the direction
> key. I sent a patch to the dev list which allows a direst setting of the
> direction value with the \startitemize command.
> >>
> >> \starttext
> >>
> >> \startitemize[columns,three]
> >> \dorecurse{9}{\item Entry \recurselevel}
> >> \stopitemize
> >>
> >> \blank[3*line]
> >>
> >> \setupmixedcolumns[itemgroupcolumns][direction=reverse]
> >>
> >> \startitemize[columns,three]
> >> \dorecurse{9}{\item Entry \recurselevel}
> >> \stopitemize
> >>
> >> \stoptext
> >>
> >> Wolfgang
> >>
> >>
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Re: right to left direction for itemize columns

[Otared Kavian]

Dear Mohammad-Hossein,

After updating my installation of ConTeXt indeed I see that the order of the columns is correct. (The version I have now is
	2016.04.27 10:18 MKIV beta  fmt: 2016.4.28 
and the previous one was version2016.04.22 09:10).

Somehow I did not notice the February change you mention in your message, and in any case my installation was probably not really up to date.

Best regards: OK
PS: I am sorry for having changed your first name, and I apologize for that… 


> On 28 Apr 2016, at 09:55, Mohammad Hossein Bateni <bateni@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Dear Otared,
> 
> Your example works perfectly fine for me using version: 2016.04.13 16:46.  Perhaps, you're using an older version of CONTEXT.  There was a patch in February enabling this.  See the output of my run attached.
> 
> —Hossein
> 
> P.S.  My name is Mohammad *Hossein*, not Mohammad Reza :)
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 12:41 AM, Otared Kavian <otared@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Mohammad Reza,
> 
> I tried your example, but it seems to me that the way the columns are presented when writing Right-to-Left is still incorrect. In the following example one should have the column containing the lines « First » and « Second » to the right of the column containing « Third » and « Fourth ».
> 
> I don’t know if there is already a way to tell ConTeXt to do it in the right way, or Hans has to look into the righttoleft mechanism.
> The same issue appears in the table mechanism.
> 
> By the way, the option 
> 	[direction=reverse]
> seems to have no effect at all in Right-to-Left environment.
> 
> %%% begin example-RtoL-reverse.tex
> \usemodule[simplefonts]
> \setmainfont[ALM Fixed][features=arabic,range=arabic]
> 
> \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=two]
> \setupalign[righttoleft]
> 
> \starttext
> آزمایش نوشتن از راست به چپ
> 
> \startitemize[columns,two][direction=reverse]
> \item First
> \item Second
> \item Third
> \item Fourth
> \stopitemize
> 
> آزمایش نوشتن از راست به چپ
> \startitemize[columns,two][direction=reverse]
> 
> \startitem
> یک
> \stopitem
> 
> \startitem
> دو
> \stopitem
> 
> \startitem
> سه
> \stopitem
> 
> 
> \startitem
> چهار
> \stopitem
> \stopitemize
> \stoptext
> %%% end example-RtoL-reverse.tex
> 
> Best regards: OK
> 
>> On 27 Apr 2016, at 23:22, Mohammad Hossein Bateni <bateni@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I actually figured out that one can use the following:
>> 
>> \startitemize[columns,two][direction=reverse]
>> \item first
>> \item second
>> \item third
>> \stopitemize
>> 
>> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Mohammad Hossein Bateni <bateni@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Wolfgang,
>> 
>> Did you imply in the email below that a new key or something was added to \startitemize setups?  I mean, using \setupmixedcolumns works fine but is it possible to do this in each \startitemize individually?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Hossein
>> 
>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 4:43 AM, Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Bou Salim 21. Februar 2016 um 13:26
>>> I have posted  a question in tex stack exchange
>>> Customize right to left list in context
>>> 
>>> My aim is to obtain right to left  items arranged  in  multi-column, if I use 
>>> \startitemize [s,columns,three] [margin=1em]   
>>> the result is three column where first column start from left side of page, but I want it to start from right side of page.
>>> 
>>> I can use \startcolumns[direction=left]\startitemize \item First \item Second \item Third \stopitemize \stopcolumns 
>>> but I think it look better if there is a key direction=left for the \startitemize environment such as used in columns environment.
>> The underlying columns mechanism has a reverse option for the direction key. I sent a patch to the dev list which allows a direst setting of the direction value with the \startitemize command.
>> 
>> \starttext
>> 
>> \startitemize[columns,three]
>> \dorecurse{9}{\item Entry \recurselevel}
>> \stopitemize
>> 
>> \blank[3*line]
>> 
>> \setupmixedcolumns[itemgroupcolumns][direction=reverse]
>> 
>> \startitemize[columns,three]
>> \dorecurse{9}{\item Entry \recurselevel}
>> \stopitemize
>> 
>> \stoptext
>> 
>> Wolfgang
>> 
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Re: right to left direction for itemize columns

[Mohammad Hossein Bateni]

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Dear Otared,

Your example works perfectly fine for me using version: 2016.04.13 16:46.
Perhaps, you're using an older version of CONTEXT.  There was a patch in
February enabling this.  See the output of my run attached.

—Hossein

P.S.  My name is Mohammad *Hossein*, not Mohammad Reza :)



On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 12:41 AM, Otared Kavian <otared@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Mohammad Reza,
>
> I tried your example, but it seems to me that the way the columns are
> presented when writing Right-to-Left is still incorrect. In the following
> example one should have the column containing the lines « First » and «
> Second » to the right of the column containing « Third » and « Fourth ».
>
> I don’t know if there is already a way to tell ConTeXt to do it in the
> right way, or Hans has to look into the righttoleft mechanism.
> The same issue appears in the table mechanism.
>
> By the way, the option
> [direction=reverse]
> seems to have no effect at all in Right-to-Left environment.
>
> %%% begin example-RtoL-reverse.tex
> \usemodule[simplefonts]
> \setmainfont[ALM Fixed][features=arabic,range=arabic]
>
> \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=two]
> \setupalign[righttoleft]
>
> \starttext
> آزمایش نوشتن از راست به چپ
>
> \startitemize[columns,two][direction=reverse]
> \item First
> \item Second
> \item Third
> \item Fourth
> \stopitemize
>
> آزمایش نوشتن از راست به چپ
> \startitemize[columns,two][direction=reverse]
>
> \startitem
> یک
> \stopitem
>
> \startitem
> دو
> \stopitem
>
> \startitem
> سه
> \stopitem
>
>
> \startitem
> چهار
> \stopitem
> \stopitemize
> \stoptext
> %%% end example-RtoL-reverse.tex
>
> Best regards: OK
>
> On 27 Apr 2016, at 23:22, Mohammad Hossein Bateni <bateni@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I actually figured out that one can use the following:
>
> \startitemize[columns,two][direction=reverse]
> \item first
> \item second
> \item third
> \stopitemize
>
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Mohammad Hossein Bateni <
> bateni@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Wolfgang,
>>
>> Did you imply in the email below that a new key or something was added to
>> \startitemize setups?  I mean, using \setupmixedcolumns works fine but is
>> it possible to do this in each \startitemize individually?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Hossein
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 4:43 AM, Wolfgang Schuster <
>> schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Bou Salim <salimcollo7@gmail.com>
>>> 21. Februar 2016 um 13:26
>>> I have posted  a question in tex stack exchangeCustomize right to left
>>> list in context
>>> <http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/294627/customize-right-to-left-list-in-context/294631?noredirect=1#comment713701_294631>
>>> My aim is to obtain right to left  items arranged  in  multi-column, if
>>> I use
>>> \startitemize [s,columns,three] [margin=1em]
>>> the result is three column where first column start from left side of
>>> page, but I want it to start from right side of page.
>>>
>>> I can use \startcolumns[direction=left]\startitemize \item First \item
>>> Second \item Third \stopitemize \stopcolumns
>>> but I think it look better if there is a key direction=left for the
>>> \startitemize environment such as used in columns environment.
>>>
>>> The underlying columns mechanism has a reverse option for the direction
>>> key. I sent a patch to the dev list which allows a direst setting of the
>>> direction value with the \startitemize command.
>>>
>>> \starttext
>>>
>>> \startitemize[columns,three]
>>> \dorecurse{9}{\item Entry \recurselevel}
>>> \stopitemize
>>>
>>> \blank[3*line]
>>>
>>> \setupmixedcolumns[itemgroupcolumns][direction=reverse]
>>>
>>> \startitemize[columns,three]
>>> \dorecurse{9}{\item Entry \recurselevel}
>>> \stopitemize
>>>
>>> \stoptext
>>>
>>> Wolfgang
>>>
>>>
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Re: right to left direction for itemize columns

[Otared Kavian]

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Hi Mohammad Reza,

I tried your example, but it seems to me that the way the columns are presented when writing Right-to-Left is still incorrect. In the following example one should have the column containing the lines « First » and « Second » to the right of the column containing « Third » and « Fourth ».

I don’t know if there is already a way to tell ConTeXt to do it in the right way, or Hans has to look into the righttoleft mechanism.
The same issue appears in the table mechanism.

By the way, the option 
	[direction=reverse]
seems to have no effect at all in Right-to-Left environment.

%%% begin example-RtoL-reverse.tex
\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setmainfont[ALM Fixed][features=arabic,range=arabic]

\setupdirections[bidi=global,method=two]
\setupalign[righttoleft]

\starttext
آزمایش نوشتن از راست به چپ

\startitemize[columns,two][direction=reverse]
\item First
\item Second
\item Third
\item Fourth
\stopitemize

آزمایش نوشتن از راست به چپ
\startitemize[columns,two][direction=reverse]

\startitem
یک
\stopitem

\startitem
دو
\stopitem

\startitem
سه
\stopitem


\startitem
چهار
\stopitem
\stopitemize
\stoptext
%%% end example-RtoL-reverse.tex

Best regards: OK

> On 27 Apr 2016, at 23:22, Mohammad Hossein Bateni <bateni@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I actually figured out that one can use the following:
> 
> \startitemize[columns,two][direction=reverse]
> \item first
> \item second
> \item third
> \stopitemize
> 
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Mohammad Hossein Bateni <bateni@gmail.com <mailto:bateni@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Wolfgang,
> 
> Did you imply in the email below that a new key or something was added to \startitemize setups?  I mean, using \setupmixedcolumns works fine but is it possible to do this in each \startitemize individually?
> 
> Thanks,
> Hossein
> 
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 4:43 AM, Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com <mailto:schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Bou Salim <mailto:salimcollo7@gmail.com> 21. Februar 2016 um 13:26
>> I have posted  a question in tex stack exchange
>> Customize right to left list in context <http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/294627/customize-right-to-left-list-in-context/294631?noredirect=1#comment713701_294631>
>> My aim is to obtain right to left  items arranged  in  multi-column, if I use 
>> \startitemize [s,columns,three] [margin=1em]   
>> the result is three column where first column start from left side of page, but I want it to start from right side of page.
>> 
>> I can use \startcolumns[direction=left]\startitemize \item First \item Second \item Third \stopitemize \stopcolumns 
>> but I think it look better if there is a key direction=left for the \startitemize environment such as used in columns environment.
> The underlying columns mechanism has a reverse option for the direction key. I sent a patch to the dev list which allows a direst setting of the direction value with the \startitemize command.
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \startitemize[columns,three]
> \dorecurse{9}{\item Entry \recurselevel}
> \stopitemize
> 
> \blank[3*line]
> 
> \setupmixedcolumns[itemgroupcolumns][direction=reverse]
> 
> \startitemize[columns,three]
> \dorecurse{9}{\item Entry \recurselevel}
> \stopitemize
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> Wolfgang
> 
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Re: right to left direction for itemize columns

[Mohammad Hossein Bateni]

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I actually figured out that one can use the following:

\startitemize[columns,two][direction=reverse]
\item first
\item second
\item third
\stopitemize

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Mohammad Hossein Bateni <bateni@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Wolfgang,
>
> Did you imply in the email below that a new key or something was added to
> \startitemize setups?  I mean, using \setupmixedcolumns works fine but is
> it possible to do this in each \startitemize individually?
>
> Thanks,
> Hossein
>
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 4:43 AM, Wolfgang Schuster <
> schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Bou Salim <salimcollo7@gmail.com>
>> 21. Februar 2016 um 13:26
>> I have posted  a question in tex stack exchangeCustomize right to left
>> list in context
>> <http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/294627/customize-right-to-left-list-in-context/294631?noredirect=1#comment713701_294631>
>> My aim is to obtain right to left  items arranged  in  multi-column, if I
>> use
>> \startitemize [s,columns,three] [margin=1em]
>> the result is three column where first column start from left side of
>> page, but I want it to start from right side of page.
>>
>> I can use \startcolumns[direction=left]\startitemize \item First \item
>> Second \item Third \stopitemize \stopcolumns
>> but I think it look better if there is a key direction=left for the
>> \startitemize environment such as used in columns environment.
>>
>> The underlying columns mechanism has a reverse option for the direction
>> key. I sent a patch to the dev list which allows a direst setting of the
>> direction value with the \startitemize command.
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> \startitemize[columns,three]
>> \dorecurse{9}{\item Entry \recurselevel}
>> \stopitemize
>>
>> \blank[3*line]
>>
>> \setupmixedcolumns[itemgroupcolumns][direction=reverse]
>>
>> \startitemize[columns,three]
>> \dorecurse{9}{\item Entry \recurselevel}
>> \stopitemize
>>
>> \stoptext
>>
>> Wolfgang
>>
>>
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>> the Wiki!
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>
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Re: right to left direction for itemize columns

[Mohammad Hossein Bateni]

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Wolfgang,

Did you imply in the email below that a new key or something was added to
\startitemize setups?  I mean, using \setupmixedcolumns works fine but is
it possible to do this in each \startitemize individually?

Thanks,
Hossein

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 4:43 AM, Wolfgang Schuster <
schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:

> Bou Salim <salimcollo7@gmail.com>
> 21. Februar 2016 um 13:26
> I have posted  a question in tex stack exchangeCustomize right to left
> list in context
> <http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/294627/customize-right-to-left-list-in-context/294631?noredirect=1#comment713701_294631>
> My aim is to obtain right to left  items arranged  in  multi-column, if I
> use
> \startitemize [s,columns,three] [margin=1em]
> the result is three column where first column start from left side of
> page, but I want it to start from right side of page.
>
> I can use \startcolumns[direction=left]\startitemize \item First \item
> Second \item Third \stopitemize \stopcolumns
> but I think it look better if there is a key direction=left for the
> \startitemize environment such as used in columns environment.
>
> The underlying columns mechanism has a reverse option for the direction
> key. I sent a patch to the dev list which allows a direst setting of the
> direction value with the \startitemize command.
>
> \starttext
>
> \startitemize[columns,three]
> \dorecurse{9}{\item Entry \recurselevel}
> \stopitemize
>
> \blank[3*line]
>
> \setupmixedcolumns[itemgroupcolumns][direction=reverse]
>
> \startitemize[columns,three]
> \dorecurse{9}{\item Entry \recurselevel}
> \stopitemize
>
> \stoptext
>
> Wolfgang
>
>
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Re: right to left direction for itemize columns

[Hans Hagen]

On 2/23/2016 12:48 AM, Jeong Dal wrote:
> Dear Hans,
>
>>> Is there any simpler way to achieve this?
>>
>> how is that supposed to work with multi-line items ?
>>
>
> I am sorry, I should explain more carefully.
>
> This type of itemization usually needed to list the short answers of the
> multiple-choice questions.
> Some problems are not well-composed, but you can see an example at the
> end of the following page.
>
> http://dugod1.tistory.com/archive/20120826
> http://blog.daum.net/_blog/BlogTypeView.do?blogid=0dl2J&articleno=153

the next beta will support this (but only for simple items that fit in 
the available space)

\starttext

\startitemize[horizontal,a,three]
\startitem first \stopitem \startitem second \stopitem
\startitem third \stopitem \startitem fourth \stopitem
\startitem fifth \stopitem
\stopitemize

\startitemize[horizontal,n,four]
\startitem first \stopitem \startitem second \stopitem
\startitem third \stopitem \startitem fourth \stopitem
\startitem fifth \stopitem \startitem sixth \stopitem
\startitem seventh \stopitem
\stopitemize

\stoptext



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Re: right to left direction for itemize columns

[Jeong Dal]

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Dear Hans,

>> Is there any simpler way to achieve this?
> 
> how is that supposed to work with multi-line items ?
> 

I am sorry, I should explain more carefully.

This type of itemization usually needed to list the short answers of the multiple-choice questions.
Some problems are not well-composed, but you can see an example at the end of the following page. 

http://dugod1.tistory.com/archive/20120826 <http://dugod1.tistory.com/archive/20120826> 
http://blog.daum.net/_blog/BlogTypeView.do?blogid=0dl2J&articleno=153 <http://blog.daum.net/_blog/BlogTypeView.do?blogid=0dl2J&articleno=153>

Thank you.
Best regards,

Dalyoung


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Re: right to left direction for itemize columns

[Hans Hagen]

On 2/22/2016 3:42 PM, Jeong Dal wrote:
> Dear Wolfgang,
>
>   I’d like to ask one thing related with the itemize columns.
>
> In my country, the items are listed from left to right first and then go down to the next line.
> For example, to get the following output,
>
> 1. first		2. second		3. third
> 4. fourth	5. fifth			6. sixth
>
> I use the code as below.
>
> \starttext
>
> \startitemize[n, columns,three, ]
> \item first
> \item second
> \item third
> \stopitemize
>
> \startitemize[continue]
> \item fourth
> \item fifth
> \item sixth
> \stopitemize
>
> \stoptext
>
> Is there any simpler way to achieve this?

how is that supposed to work with multi-line items ?

Hans

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Re: right to left direction for itemize columns

[Jeong Dal]

Dear Wolfgang,

 I’d like to ask one thing related with the itemize columns.

In my country, the items are listed from left to right first and then go down to the next line.
For example, to get the following output, 

1. first		2. second		3. third
4. fourth	5. fifth			6. sixth

I use the code as below.

\starttext

\startitemize[n, columns,three, ]
\item first
\item second
\item third
\stopitemize

\startitemize[continue]
\item fourth
\item fifth
\item sixth
\stopitemize

\stoptext

Is there any simpler way to achieve this?

Thank you.

Best regards,

Dalyoung


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Re: right to left direction for itemize columns

[Wolfgang Schuster]

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> Bou Salim <mailto:salimcollo7@gmail.com>
> 21. Februar 2016 um 13:26
> I have posted  a question in tex stack exchange
>
>
>   Customize right to left list in context
>   <http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/294627/customize-right-to-left-list-in-context/294631?noredirect=1#comment713701_294631>
>
> My aim is to obtain right to left  items arranged  in  multi-column, 
> if I use
> \startitemize[s,columns,three][margin=1em]
> the result is three column where first column start from left side of 
> page, but I want it to start from right side of page.
>
> I can use \startcolumns[direction=left]\startitemize \item First \item 
> Second \item Third \stopitemize \stopcolumns
> but I think it look better if there is a key direction=left for 
> the\startitemize environment such as used in columns environment.
The underlying columns mechanism has a reverse option for the direction 
key. I sent a patch to the dev list which allows a direst setting of the 
direction value with the \startitemize command.

\starttext

\startitemize[columns,three]
\dorecurse{9}{\item Entry \recurselevel}
\stopitemize

\blank[3*line]

\setupmixedcolumns[itemgroupcolumns][direction=reverse]

\startitemize[columns,three]
\dorecurse{9}{\item Entry \recurselevel}
\stopitemize

\stoptext

Wolfgang

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[Bou Salim]

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I have posted  a question in tex stack exchangeCustomize right to left list
in context
<http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/294627/customize-right-to-left-list-in-context/294631?noredirect=1#comment713701_294631>
My aim is to obtain right to left  items arranged  in  multi-column, if I
use
\startitemize [s,columns,three] [margin=1em]
the result is three column where first column start from left side of page,
but I want it to start from right side of page.

I can use \startcolumns[direction=left]\startitemize \item First \item
Second \item Third \stopitemize \stopcolumns
but I think it look better if there is a key direction=left for the
\startitemize environment such as used in columns environment.

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