ConTeXt installation and configuration on Win 10 x64

ConTeXt installation and configuration on Win 10 x64

[L.S.-Soc&Gam]

i downloaded ConTeXt from contextgarden and so far i saw three options 
to download

first i found folders setup and setup2? which one should i use? in one 
of them there are win32 and win64 zips. and in the other are win32, 
win64 plus a mswin zip. which one is the correct one? since i am on 
Win10x64 i downloaded context-setup-win64.zip.

i unzipped the file, started command as admin and went to Con dir. there 
i entered: first-setup.bat --modules=all
everything went fine and i added the win64 folder which Con installer 
showed me at the end to my system paths.
as far as i know, an update is done the same way. please correct me if i 
am wrong.

in TeXnicCenter i added a new profile.
on (La)TeX register i have activated: Run LaTeX in this profile.

in the path to compiler field i entered:
F:\Sandbox\ConTeXt\tex\setuptex.bat & 
F:\Sandbox\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-win64\bin\texmfstart.exe

question: do i need both entries?

in the command line field i entered:
texexec.rb --batch --nonstop --pdf --color "%bm" --synctex=-1

BibTeX is deactivated, MakeIndex isn't used either.

well and it works. but not without ruby: why do i need ruby? i would use 
mkiv only if i could. i also worked with Hex color codes but then 
everything is black untill i add \setupcolor[hex] to the document. i 
read that this line is only needed in mkiv, so again i am wondering why 
i am obviously using mkii instead of mkiv...

the last question for now is: how can i stop pdfTeX.exe from warning me 
that no GlyphToUnicode entry has been inserted yet. i read somewhere 
that this can be ignored but nobody explains what this is and how it 
works. i just don't want to read this every time but fix it.
and what is meant with bad boxes? i read "Underfull \hbox (badness 
10000) in paragraph..." but don't know how to fix this.

i would also have questions related to SciTE, because i can't make UTF-8 
work following the desctiption on contextgarden, but for now i would be 
happy if i could take the most out of context within TeXnicCenter.

Thanks in advance,
Sebastian
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Re: ConTeXt installation and configuration on Win 10 x64

[Pablo Rodriguez]

On 03/09/2016 10:57 PM, L.S.-Soc&Gam wrote:
> i downloaded ConTeXt from contextgarden and so far i saw three options 
> to download
> 
> first i found folders setup and setup2? which one should i use? in one 
> of them there are win32 and win64 zips. and in the other are win32, 
> win64 plus a mswin zip. which one is the correct one? since i am on 
> Win10x64 i downloaded context-setup-win64.zip.

Hi Sebastian,

I’m not on Win10, but I guess this was the right file.

> i unzipped the file, started command as admin and went to Con dir. there 
> i entered: first-setup.bat --modules=all
> everything went fine and i added the win64 folder which Con installer 
> showed me at the end to my system paths.
> as far as i know, an update is done the same way. please correct me if i 
> am wrong.

Yes, updates may be performed invoking the same command.

> in TeXnicCenter i added a new profile.
> on (La)TeX register i have activated: Run LaTeX in this profile.
> 
> in the path to compiler field i entered:
> F:\Sandbox\ConTeXt\tex\setuptex.bat & 
> F:\Sandbox\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-win64\bin\texmfstart.exe
> 
> question: do i need both entries?

I don’t think so. The second entry isn’t required at all.

> in the command line field i entered:
> texexec.rb --batch --nonstop --pdf --color "%bm" --synctex=-1
> 
> BibTeX is deactivated, MakeIndex isn't used either.

MakeIndex isn’t required in ConTeXt. (Indices aren’t generated using
MakeIndex in ConTeXt, afaIk.)

BibTeX may work, but there is a much better bibliographic module being
developed.

> well and it works. but not without ruby: why do i need ruby? i would use 
> mkiv only if i could. i also worked with Hex color codes but then 
> everything is black untill i add \setupcolor[hex] to the document. i 
> read that this line is only needed in mkiv, so again i am wondering why 
> i am obviously using mkii instead of mkiv...

The command line for MkIV should read "context source-file.tex". BTW,
ruby isn’t required for MkIV.

> the last question for now is: how can i stop pdfTeX.exe from warning me 
> that no GlyphToUnicode entry has been inserted yet. i read somewhere 
> that this can be ignored but nobody explains what this is and how it 
> works. i just don't want to read this every time but fix it.
> and what is meant with bad boxes? i read "Underfull \hbox (badness 
> 10000) in paragraph..." but don't know how to fix this.

Warnings fron pdftex will dissapear when you switch to MkIV :-).

"Underfull \hbox" may be caused by wrong hyphenation?

Would it be possible that you were compiling a German (or non-English text)?

In such case, please add "\mainlanguage[de]" in the first line of your
source document.

> i would also have questions related to SciTE, because i can't make UTF-8 
> work following the desctiption on contextgarden, but for now i would be 
> happy if i could take the most out of context within TeXnicCenter.

Never used SciTE in Windows.

Notepad++ works fine for me on Win7 (but I’m no ConTeXt expert).

Just in case it helps,


Pablo
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Re: ConTeXt installation and configuration on Win 10 x64

[L.S.-Soc&Gam]

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hey Pablo, thanks a lot for pointing some things out. i finally managed 
to get mkiv working!!!

Am 09.03.2016 um 23:49 schrieb Pablo Rodriguez:
> On 03/09/2016 10:57 PM, L.S.-Soc&Gam wrote:
>> in TeXnicCenter i added a new profile.
>> on (La)TeX register i have activated: Run LaTeX in this profile.
>>
>> in the path to compiler field i entered:
>> F:\Sandbox\ConTeXt\tex\setuptex.bat &
>> F:\Sandbox\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-win64\bin\texmfstart.exe
>>
>> question: do i need both entries?
> I don’t think so. The second entry isn’t required at all.

almost! the first one wasn't required. *setuptex.bat* only initializes 
the context folder sub-tree to the system. this is not necessary if 
*...**\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-win64\bin\* has been added to the system path. 
in case of TeXnicCenter it might be not necessary at all, unless 
*context.exe* doesn't call any other executable or batch files. but even 
then it would look in its own folder first. i will check that out in the 
future.

>
>> in the command line field i entered:
>> texexec.rb --batch --nonstop --pdf --color "%bm" --synctex=-1
>>
>> BibTeX is deactivated, MakeIndex isn't used either.
> MakeIndex isn’t required in ConTeXt. (Indices aren’t generated using
> MakeIndex in ConTeXt, afaIk.)
>
> BibTeX may work, but there is a much better bibliographic module being
> developed.

it's not that i would need any of these so i didn't bother about those 
options being deactivated in the first place anyway. but thanks for 
pointing out what those are there for.

>> well and it works. but not without ruby: why do i need ruby? i would use
>> mkiv only if i could. i also worked with Hex color codes but then
>> everything is black untill i add \setupcolor[hex] to the document. i
>> read that this line is only needed in mkiv, so again i am wondering why
>> i am obviously using mkii instead of mkiv...
> The command line for MkIV should read "context source-file.tex". BTW,
> ruby isn’t required for MkIV.

here's the point why it works now: TeXnicCenter has a location field and 
a console command field.

this is what i entered in the compiler LOCATION field before:
F:\Sandbox\ConTeXt\tex\setuptex.bat & 
F:\Sandbox\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-win64\bin\texmfstart.exe

like you pointed out before: *setuptex.bat* is not needed and the second 
path with texmfstart.exe is for i don't know what!?! but it always used 
mkii as compiler...
anyway this is from a tutorial from the contextgarden wiki: 
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TeXnicCenter
that's why i got frustrated. the article was last updated 2012 and 
honestly i was quiet sure that's it's up to date.

so i simply changed the compiler location to 
F:\Sandbox\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-win64\bin\context.exe
and as you also pointed out i had to tell context which file. and 
therefor is the console command field. in my quotation above there is 
the following command:

"%bm"


i didn't realize that %bm is TeXnicCenter specific to handle over the 
name of the current project to the command line. it's that easy; one 
just has to know...^^

so my location is now F:\Sandbox\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-win64\bin\context.exe
and command is                        %bm

and it finally works!!! so again Pablo thanks for taking me to this.

>
>> the last question for now is: how can i stop pdfTeX.exe from warning me
>> that no GlyphToUnicode entry has been inserted yet. i read somewhere
>> that this can be ignored but nobody explains what this is and how it
>> works. i just don't want to read this every time but fix it.
>> and what is meant with bad boxes? i read "Underfull \hbox (badness
>> 10000) in paragraph..." but don't know how to fix this.
> Warnings fron pdftex will dissapear when you switch to MkIV :-).
>
> "Underfull \hbox" may be caused by wrong hyphenation?
>
> Would it be possible that you were compiling a German (or non-English text)?
>
> In such case, please add "\mainlanguage[de]" in the first line of your
> source document.
yes, i had \language in my document before but i also added 
\mainlanguage too now. didn't know about this one, so thanks yet again.

and you were right, i now don't have any errors or warnings anymore. but 
unfortunately now console also doesn't show the quantity of pages 
compiled anymore. i tried before with *context.exe* compiler location 
(the long described case above) but it always showed 0 pages so i 
thought nothing got compiled.^^ i didn't bother anymore and changed back 
to *texmfstart.exe*. maybe i should have checked the pdfs first. :D


so yeah, i finally got ConTeXt mkiv up and running and can't wait to 
continue learning this beast. thanks a bunch Pablo. you helped me a lot.

Greetings, Sebastian

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Re: ConTeXt installation and configuration on Win 10 x64

[Hans Hagen]

On 3/10/2016 2:53 AM, L.S.-Soc&Gam wrote:
> hey Pablo, thanks a lot for pointing some things out. i finally managed
> to get mkiv working!!!
>
> Am 09.03.2016 um 23:49 schrieb Pablo Rodriguez:
>> On 03/09/2016 10:57 PM, L.S.-Soc&Gam wrote:
>>> in TeXnicCenter i added a new profile.
>>> on (La)TeX register i have activated: Run LaTeX in this profile.
>>>
>>> in the path to compiler field i entered:
>>> F:\Sandbox\ConTeXt\tex\setuptex.bat &
>>> F:\Sandbox\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-win64\bin\texmfstart.exe
>>>
>>> question: do i need both entries?
>> I don’t think so. The second entry isn’t required at all.
>
> almost! the first one wasn't required. *setuptex.bat* only initializes
> the context folder sub-tree to the system. this is not necessary if
> *...**\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-win64\bin\* has been added to the system path.
> in case of TeXnicCenter it might be not necessary at all, unless
> *context.exe* doesn't call any other executable or batch files. but even
> then it would look in its own folder first. i will check that out in the
> future.
>
>>
>>> in the command line field i entered:
>>> texexec.rb --batch --nonstop --pdf --color "%bm" --synctex=-1
>>>
>>> BibTeX is deactivated, MakeIndex isn't used either.
>> MakeIndex isn’t required in ConTeXt. (Indices aren’t generated using
>> MakeIndex in ConTeXt, afaIk.)
>>
>> BibTeX may work, but there is a much better bibliographic module being
>> developed.
>
> it's not that i would need any of these so i didn't bother about those
> options being deactivated in the first place anyway. but thanks for
> pointing out what those are there for.
>
>>> well and it works. but not without ruby: why do i need ruby? i would use
>>> mkiv only if i could. i also worked with Hex color codes but then
>>> everything is black untill i add \setupcolor[hex] to the document. i
>>> read that this line is only needed in mkiv, so again i am wondering why
>>> i am obviously using mkii instead of mkiv...
>> The command line for MkIV should read "context source-file.tex". BTW,
>> ruby isn’t required for MkIV.
>
> here's the point why it works now: TeXnicCenter has a location field and
> a console command field.
>
> this is what i entered in the compiler LOCATION field before:
> F:\Sandbox\ConTeXt\tex\setuptex.bat &
> F:\Sandbox\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-win64\bin\texmfstart.exe
>
> like you pointed out before: *setuptex.bat* is not needed and the second
> path with texmfstart.exe is for i don't know what!?! but it always used
> mkii as compiler...
> anyway this is from a tutorial from the contextgarden wiki:
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TeXnicCenter
> that's why i got frustrated. the article was last updated 2012 and
> honestly i was quiet sure that's it's up to date.
>
> so i simply changed the compiler location to
> F:\Sandbox\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-win64\bin\context.exe
> and as you also pointed out i had to tell context which file. and
> therefor is the console command field. in my quotation above there is
> the following command:
>
> "%bm"
>
>
> i didn't realize that %bm is TeXnicCenter specific to handle over the
> name of the current project to the command line. it's that easy; one
> just has to know...^^
>
> so my location is now F:\Sandbox\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-win64\bin\context.exe
> and command is                        %bm
>
> and it finally works!!! so again Pablo thanks for taking me to this.
>
>>
>>> the last question for now is: how can i stop pdfTeX.exe from warning me
>>> that no GlyphToUnicode entry has been inserted yet. i read somewhere
>>> that this can be ignored but nobody explains what this is and how it
>>> works. i just don't want to read this every time but fix it.
>>> and what is meant with bad boxes? i read "Underfull \hbox (badness
>>> 10000) in paragraph..." but don't know how to fix this.
>> Warnings fron pdftex will dissapear when you switch to MkIV :-).
>>
>> "Underfull \hbox" may be caused by wrong hyphenation?
>>
>> Would it be possible that you were compiling a German (or non-English text)?
>>
>> In such case, please add "\mainlanguage[de]" in the first line of your
>> source document.
> yes, i had \language in my document before but i also added
> \mainlanguage too now. didn't know about this one, so thanks yet again.
>
> and you were right, i now don't have any errors or warnings anymore. but
> unfortunately now console also doesn't show the quantity of pages
> compiled anymore. i tried before with *context.exe* compiler location
> (the long described case above) but it always showed 0 pages so i
> thought nothing got compiled.^^ i didn't bother anymore and changed back
> to *texmfstart.exe*. maybe i should have checked the pdfs first. :D

context.exe is a stub (like mtxrun --script context) that loads a script 
mtx-context, initializes itself and then knows where to look for the 
rest so indeed you only need to set the path (which has a well defined 
place in the tex tree)

> so yeah, i finally got ConTeXt mkiv up and running and can't wait to
> continue learning this beast. thanks a bunch Pablo. you helped me a lot.
>
> Greetings, Sebastian
>
>
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