From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/30821 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Thomas A. Schmitz" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: YABQ (yet another bib question...) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:18:03 +0200 Message-ID: <56F339C9-40B5-4D0F-8310-4AB388899CDF@uni-bonn.de> References: <4504138A.9030008@elvenkind.com> <9BDD8527-9C5A-4568-B754-02047069EF92@uni-bonn.de> <450A5CE5.5070307@elvenkind.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1158311984 23142 80.91.229.2 (15 Sep 2006 09:19:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 09:19:44 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Sep 15 11:19:42 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GO9rA-000085-UW for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:19:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70D561FE3F; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:19:32 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 04940-05; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:19:25 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CDF91FDE4; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:19:25 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D56101FDE4 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:19:23 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 04944-05-2 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:19:22 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com (mailout08.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.20]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 3F8EA1FD0A for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:19:22 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from fwd27.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1GO9qz-0006Nj-01; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:19:21 +0200 Original-Received: from [192.168.0.2] (rSaqHOZOregI7Y8CdEdSnDpZgnNhb7lN9EYsoLDTMD6HHsYZlBYhZk@[84.172.89.114]) by fwd27.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1GO9qj-1zK9uy0; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:19:05 +0200 In-Reply-To: <450A5CE5.5070307@elvenkind.com> Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-ID: rSaqHOZOregI7Y8CdEdSnDpZgnNhb7lN9EYsoLDTMD6HHsYZlBYhZk@t-dialin.net X-TOI-MSGID: 8a5b248e-e83a-4d40-af11-ffc4fafdf40a X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:30821 Archived-At: On Sep 15, 2006, at 9:57 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > The problem with redefining \maybeyear is that it affects all > citations equally: when you have three Knuth records with the > same year and two Tuftes with the same year in the database, then > if you use only one of Knuths but both Tuftes, you can no longer > see which one of the Tuftes you were citing. > > I could add an interface setting, so that you would do not have to > resort to using \def, but it would be much better if I could fix > the problem internally. Needs some thinking, though > > Taco Yes, I see the difficulty. I don't know enough about bibtex styles and habits in general, but I'm just wondering if \maybeyear should be used in a different way - in my discipline, I think it would. Consider this example: Hoekwater, First article, journalA, vol. 5 (2006) Hoekwater, Second article, journalB, vol. 10 (2006) IMHO, bibtex should now generate keys such as Hoek2006a and Hoek2006b or authoryear references like Hoekwater (2006a) and Hoekwater (2006b), but it should not (!) append the "a" and "b" to the years in the bibliographic list itself. But I may be wrong here - what do you and other users say? Should the (2006) in the example above come out as "(2006a)" and "(2006b)"? And as I was suggesting: if you use numered references, I think it would be best to just switch maybeyear off completely, so my suggestion would be to have a switch "maybeyear = on/off" for the \setuppublicationlist. Best Thomas