From: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>
To: ntg-context@ntg.nl
Subject: Re: RTL section heads
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 09:20:07 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <570DF327.2010409@wxs.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43058997-6878-416D-93FF-E8153B0FD71D@gmail.com>
On 4/13/2016 4:15 AM, Otared Kavian wrote:
> Hi Hans and Mohammad Reza,
>
> I can confirm that the wrong behaviour of numbers and digits in Right to Left (more specifically Persian) is recent: indeed with
>
> ConTeXt ver: 2015.05.18 12:26 MKIV current fmt: 2015.6.18 int: english/english
>
> from TeXLive 2015 the numbers and digits are rendered as they should. Is it related to some changes in LuaTeX?
maybe a bug .. i'll check it
> Best regards: OK
>
>> On 13 Apr 2016, at 02:46, Mohammad Hossein Bateni <bateni@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Unfortunately when I use method=two for bidi, the numbers in the main body are written from right to left. I'm starting to wonder whether it does anything nontrivial at all.
>>
>> \usemodule[simplefonts]
>> \setmainfont[ALM Fixed][features=arabic,range=arabic]
>>
>> \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=two]
>> \setupalign[r2l]
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> سال ۲۰۱۶
>>
>> 2016
>>
>> \stoptext
>>
>>
>> I'm pretty sure this used to work (for example in version 2016.01.18 22:21). A similar piece of code is working fine on the website. I'm using CONTEXT version: 2016.04.01 13:01. I also verified that it is not working in version: 2016.04.10 23:52.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Mohammad Hossein Bateni <bateni@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks, Hans! This does solve the problem with the list of numbers. And actually if I add a numberstyle field, I can the section heads the way I like. Here is the setup that worked. (I will update Wiki later.)
>>
>> \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=two]
>> \setupalign[r2l]
>>
>> \def\LTR#1{{\lefttoright#1}}
>> \def\leftpersiandecimals#1{\LTR{\persiandecimals{#1}}}
>> \defineconversion[leftpersiandecimals][\leftpersiandecimals]
>> \setuphead[chapter,title,section,subject] [conversion=leftpersiandecimals,numberstyle=\righttoleft]
>>
>> \defineseparatorset[dashsep][-,-,-,-]
>> \setuphead[section][sectionseparatorset=dashsep]
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>> On 4/11/2016 4:25 AM, Mohammad Hossein Bateni wrote:
>> Hans & Wolfgang,
>>
>> Do you have suggestions here? How can I get the behavior I want for the
>> section head numbers?
>>
>> In fact, the following may be quite relevant.
>>
>> \usemodule[simplefonts]
>> \setmainfont[ALM Fixed][features=arabic,range=arabic]
>>
>> \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=default]
>> \setupalign[r2l]
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> اعداد ۱، ۲، ۳ و ۴ را در نظر بگیرید.
>>
>> اعداد 1، 2، 3 و 4 را در نظر بگیرید.
>>
>> اعداد 1, 2, 3 و 4 را در نظر بگیرید.
>>
>> \stoptext
>>
>>
>> I expect the numbers 1, 2, 3 and 4 to appear in the same order from
>> right to left. However, the visual order that I observe (regardless of
>> whether I use Persian digits or English digits, or whether I use Persian
>> or English commas) is 4, 1, 2, 3 (from left to right). Is this a bug in
>> the bidi code? If so, are there any workarounds?
>>
>> method=two
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Hossein
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 5:20 PM, Mohammad Hossein Bateni
>> <bateni@gmail.com <mailto:bateni@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> This is concerning an RTL text. I have one chapter and 10 sections
>> under that. My goal is to achieve the following.
>> 1) The number 10 should appear correctly with '1' visually to the
>> left of '0'.
>> 2) The chapter number should visually appear to the right of the
>> section number.
>> 3) Chapter and section numbers should be separated with a dash.
>> (This is ignored in this email and I will follow up about it in
>> another thread. To get a minimal working example, I also do not try
>> to change the numbers to use Persian digits.)
>>
>> In particular, the headings will be visually something like the
>> following (aligned to the right).
>> elpmas 1
>> txet 1-1
>> txet 2-1
>> txet 3-1
>> ...
>> txet 10-1
>>
>> Here's the first attempt.
>>
>> %% Attempt 1
>> \setupalign[r2l]
>>
>> \starttext
>> \placecontent
>>
>> \chapter{sample}
>> \dorecurse{10}{\section{text}}
>> \stoptext
>>
>> The result is:
>> elpmas 1
>> txet 1-1
>> ...
>> txet 01-1
>>
>>
>> Then I add "\setupdirections[bidi=global,method=default]" to the
>> beginning and I get the most strange result (number right-aligned
>> but texts left-aligned):
>> sample 1
>> text 1.1
>> ...
>> text 1.10
>>
>>
>> A third attempt gives almost what I want (without period as the
>> separator).
>>
>> %% Attempt 3
>> \setupalign[r2l]
>>
>> \def\LTR#1{{\lefttoright#1}}
>> \def\leftnumbers#1{\LTR{\numbers{#1}}}
>> \defineconversion[leftnumbers][\leftnumbers]
>> \setuphead[chapter,title,section,subject] [conversion=leftnumbers]
>>
>> \starttext
>> \placecontent
>>
>> \chapter{sample}
>> \dorecurse{10}{\section{text}}
>> \stoptext
>>
>>
>> The big problem is that in my RTL documents, I always have the
>> setupdirections command, which messes things up here. (This makes
>> it difficult to one section name with English title, which should
>> still be typeset on the right-hand side of the page.) Note that in
>> attempt 2 above, there were two issues:
>> (1) Text and numbers appeared on the two far ends of the screen
>> instead of being close to each other. This does not happen when I
>> use Farsi text.
>> (2) Chapter number appears to the left of section number.
>>
>>
>> %% Attempt 5
>> \usemodule[simplefonts]
>> \setmainfont[ALM Fixed][features=arabic,range=arabic]
>>
>> \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=default]
>> \setupalign[r2l]
>>
>> \starttext
>> \placecontent
>>
>> \chapter{نمونه}
>> \dorecurse{10}{\section{متن}}
>> \stoptext
>>
>>
>> Interestingly the table of contents looks fine if I put the number
>> inside an LTR macro; still in the main body, the section heads are
>> typeset incorrectly.
>>
>> %% Attempt 6
>> \usemodule[simplefonts]
>> \setmainfont[ALM Fixed][features=arabic,range=arabic]
>>
>> \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=default]
>> \setupalign[r2l]
>>
>> \def\LTR#1{{\lefttoright#1}}
>> \def\leftnumbers#1{\LTR{\numbers{#1}}}
>> \defineconversion[leftnumbers][\leftnumbers]
>> \setuphead[chapter,title,section,subject] [conversion=leftnumbers]
>>
>> \starttext
>> \placecontent
>>
>> \chapter{نمونه}
>> \dorecurse{10}{\section{متن}}
>> \stoptext
>>
>>
>> I guess the solution is to get the entire section head number string
>> (e.g., 1.10) to have RTL direction, however, each individual number
>> string inside (say, 1 or 10) should be written LTR. How can this be
>> achieved?
>>
>> The six TeX files (with corresponding PDF outputs) are attached.
>>
>> BTW this is using ConTeXt ver: 2016.04.01 13:01 MKIV beta fmt:
>> 2016.4.7 int: english/english, running LuaTeX, Version beta-0.90.0
>> (TeX Live 2016) on Mac OS X.
>>
>> Thanks a lot,
>> —MHB
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-04-08 21:20 Mohammad Hossein Bateni
2016-04-11 2:25 ` Mohammad Hossein Bateni
2016-04-11 14:46 ` Hans Hagen
2016-04-11 15:47 ` Mohammad Hossein Bateni
2016-04-13 0:46 ` Mohammad Hossein Bateni
2016-04-13 2:15 ` Otared Kavian
2016-04-13 2:59 ` Mohammad Hossein Bateni
2016-04-13 14:56 ` Hans Hagen
2016-04-13 15:14 ` Mohammad Hossein Bateni
2016-04-13 16:41 ` Pablo Rodriguez
2016-04-13 16:56 ` Mohammad Hossein Bateni
2016-04-14 8:19 ` Hans Hagen
2016-04-13 7:20 ` Hans Hagen [this message]
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