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[2.242.222.31]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s10sm5934414wjp.3.2016.04.20.07.25.10 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 20 Apr 2016 07:25:10 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Postbox 4.0.8 (Macintosh/20151105) In-Reply-To: <57178C3D.4090008@fehige.de> X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: "ntg-context" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:94500 Archived-At: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0849613351226467769== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010207010907010207040202" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010207010907010207040202 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Thomas Fehige > 20. April 2016 um 16:03 > Wolfgang, >> Use separate threads for each problem. The uppercase sharp s=20 >> replacement with \WORD can be changed in the next beta. >> >> %% begin example > are you saying, use this example as long as the new beta isn't out=20 > yet, or are you saying, this example will work as soon as I'll use the=20 > new beta? It doesn't seem to do anything right now, not even an error=20 > message. It=E2=80=99s a new feature which will work with the next beta. With \enabledirectives[fonts.uppercasesharps] you tell context to=20 convert =C3=9F to =E1=BA=9E (instead of SS) when you use \WORD to capital= ize a string. > I was looking for a general way how to substitute one glyph with=20 > another depending on context, thus I can't see how there are different=20 > problems in my post? But it's good to hear that others have thought at=20 > least of a partial solution. > > Is my guess right that normally the author of a font ought to provide=20 > otf features that can be switched on and off to get one result instead=20 > of the other? That area seems to be utter chaos in the Calluna fonts. The output of \sc to produce small capitals depends on the font and it=E2= =80=99s=20 the font designers job to provide a small =E1=BA=9E (he could use stilist= ic sets=20 to let you choose between =C3=9F and =E1=BA=9E). Wolfgang --------------010207010907010207040202 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thomas Fehige
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=20 =20 Wolfgang,
Use separate threads for each problem. The uppercase sharp s replacement with \WORD can be changed in the next beta.

%% begin example
are you saying, use this example as long as the new beta isn't out yet, or are you saying, this example will work as soon as I'll use the new beta? It doesn't seem to do anything right now, not even an error message.
It=E2=80=99s a new feature which will work with the next beta.

With \enabledirectives[fonts.uppercasesharps] you tell context to=20 convert =C3=9F to =E1=BA=9E (instead of SS) when you use \WORD to capital= ize a=20 string.
I was looking for a general = way how to substitute one glyph with another depending on context, thus I can't see how there are different problems in my post? But it's good to hear that others have thought at least of a partial solution.

Is my guess right that normally the author of a font ought to provide otf features that can be switched on and off to get one result instead of the other? That area seems to be utter chaos in the Calluna fonts.
The output of \sc to produce small capitals depends on the font and it=E2= =80=99s the font designers job to provide a small =E1=BA=9E (he could use stilis= tic=20 sets to let you choose between =C3=9F and =E1=BA=9E).

Wolfgang
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