LuaTeX finds font, mtxrun --fonts does not list it?

LuaTeX finds font, mtxrun --fonts does not list it?

[Sandra Snan]

I'm trying to add a ttf font (Futura) so I can use it in ConTeXt.

I've ran
mtxrun --script fonts --list --all |less
looked at a ttf font that was there, copied my Futura ttfs to the same
directory it was in, and ran
mtxrun --script fonts --reload --force

But I still can't find it in
mtxrun --script fonts --list --all |less

nor can I use it in ConTeXt.
(The filenames don't have spaces.)

The curious thing is that the luatex cache has it.
It's listed in
/home/sandra/.texmf-var/luatex-cache/generic/names/luaotfload-names.luc
under various names, all starting with "futuralt".


Curiously,
/home/sandra/.texmf-var/luatex-cache/context/[number]/fonts/otf/futuralt-book.tm[ac]
exist.

But the only "book-" related name in luaotfload-names.luc is
futuraltbook, not futuralt-book. Neither worked in ConTeXt, though.

How do I move forward with this, how do I add ttfs so that ConTeXt
understand them?

Sandra
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Re: LuaTeX finds font, mtxrun --fonts does not list it?

[Hans Hagen]

On 5/27/2015 10:10 PM, Sandra Snan wrote:
> I'm trying to add a ttf font (Futura) so I can use it in ConTeXt.
>
> I've ran
> mtxrun --script fonts --list --all |less
> looked at a ttf font that was there, copied my Futura ttfs to the same
> directory it was in, and ran
> mtxrun --script fonts --reload --force
>
> But I still can't find it in
> mtxrun --script fonts --list --all |less
>
> nor can I use it in ConTeXt.
> (The filenames don't have spaces.)
>
> The curious thing is that the luatex cache has it.
> It's listed in
> /home/sandra/.texmf-var/luatex-cache/generic/names/luaotfload-names.luc
> under various names, all starting with "futuralt".
>
>
> Curiously,
> /home/sandra/.texmf-var/luatex-cache/context/[number]/fonts/otf/futuralt-book.tm[ac]
> exist.
>
> But the only "book-" related name in luaotfload-names.luc is
> futuraltbook, not futuralt-book. Neither worked in ConTeXt, though.
>
> How do I move forward with this, how do I add ttfs so that ConTeXt
> understand them?

when resolving fonts context makes safe filenames for fonts so don't 
worry about the - being gone

the fact that there is a luc file means that the font has been loaded so 
the question is: how does your tex code look

what happens if you put file: before a name?

Hans


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Re: LuaTeX finds font, mtxrun --fonts does not list it?

[Sandra Snan]

Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> writes:
> when resolving fonts context makes safe filenames for fonts so don't 
> worry about the - being gone
>
> the fact that there is a luc file means that the font has been loaded so 
> the question is: how does your tex code look
>
> what happens if you put file: before a name?

Here is the full file. $body$ is filled in by pandoc.

Sandra

% interface output=luatex
\usemodule[simplefonts][protrusion=quality,expansion=quality]
\setupsimplefonts[expansion=quality,protrusion=quality]
\setuppagenumbering[location=]
\enableregime	[utf-8]
\setuppapersize[A4, portrait][A4, portrait]
\setuplanguage[sv][leftquote=›,rightquote=‹,leftquotation=»,rightquotation=«]
\mainlanguage [sv]
\setupfontsynonym [Serif] [handling=pure]
\usetypescript[serif][hanging][pure]
\definefontfamily[futura][sans][file:futuralt]
\definefontfamily [praise][serif][junicode]

\setupalign[justified,hanging,hz]
\usetypescript[serif,sans,mono][hz][quality]
\setupbodyfont[praise]
\setuphead[section][style={\switchtotypeface[futura]\tfd}]
\starttext
$body$
\stoptext
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Re: LuaTeX finds font, mtxrun --fonts does not list it?

[Wolfgang Schuster]

> Am 28.05.2015 um 11:37 schrieb Sandra Snan <sandra.snan@idiomdrottning.org>:
> 
> Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> writes:
>> when resolving fonts context makes safe filenames for fonts so don't 
>> worry about the - being gone
>> 
>> the fact that there is a luc file means that the font has been loaded so 
>> the question is: how does your tex code look
>> 
>> what happens if you put file: before a name?
> 
> Here is the full file. $body$ is filled in by pandoc.
> 
> Sandra
> 
> % interface output=luatex
> \usemodule[simplefonts][protrusion=quality,expansion=quality]
> \setupsimplefonts[expansion=quality,protrusion=quality]

Don’t load the simplefonts module because you don’t need it when you use the \definefontfamily command.

> \setuppagenumbering[location=]
> \enableregime	[utf-8]

You can drop this line because ConTeXt uses UTF-8 as default encoding.

> \setuppapersize[A4, portrait][A4, portrait]

There is no “portrait” keyword for the \setuppapersize and you can also drop this line because ConTeXt uses A4 as default paper size.

> \setuplanguage[sv][leftquote=›,rightquote=‹,leftquotation=»,rightquotation=«]
> \mainlanguage [sv]
> \setupfontsynonym [Serif] [handling=pure]
> \usetypescript[serif][hanging][pure]

You can drop both lines because they are only used by MkII.

> \definefontfamily[futura][sans][file:futuralt]

Don’t use the “file:” prefix in the third argument.

\definefontfamily [futura] [sans] [Futura LT]

> \definefontfamily [praise][serif][junicode]
> 
> \setupalign[justified,hanging,hz]
> \usetypescript[serif,sans,mono][hz][quality]

Remove the line above because it’s only used by MkII.

> \setupbodyfont[praise]
> \setuphead[section][style={\switchtotypeface[futura]\tfd}]
> \starttext
> $body$
> \stoptext

When you use math in your text you have to set a font for it.

Wolfgang

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Re: LuaTeX finds font, mtxrun --fonts does not list it?

[Sandra Snan]

Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> writes:

>> Am 28.05.2015 um 11:37 schrieb Sandra Snan <sandra.snan@idiomdrottning.org>:
>>> what happens if you put file: before a name?
>> \definefontfamily[futura][sans][file:futuralt]
>
> Don’t use the “file:” prefix in the third argument.

I don't understand this exchange.

>> \setuppapersize[A4, portrait][A4, portrait]
>
> There is no “portrait” keyword for the \setuppapersize and you can also drop this line because ConTeXt uses A4 as default paper size.

I was working from a template for A7 landscape that's why this was still
in there.

But a lot of the other stuff is just cargo-culted cruft and voodoo that
has accumulated over the years of only rarely making new templates.
Thank you for helping me clear it out.

Here is the file now:

% interface output=luatex
\setuppagenumbering[location=]
\setuplanguage[sv][leftquote=›,rightquote=‹,leftquotation=»,rightquotation=«]
\mainlanguage [sv]
\definefontfamily[futura][sans][Futura LT]
\definefontfamily [praise][serif][junicode]
\setupalign[justified,hanging,hz]
\setupbodyfont[praise]
\setuphead[section][style={\switchtotypeface[futura]}]
\starttext
$body$
\stoptext

% Still no luck with the Futura.
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Re: LuaTeX finds font, mtxrun --fonts does not list it?

[Sandra Snan]

For some reason, it just started working today. After all this time. I
have no idea what was going on.
\definefontfamily[jeans][sans][file:futuralt]
and then referring to to the font family "jeans" later on.
Looks great, too.

Sandra

Sandra Snan <sandra.snan@idiomdrottning.org> writes:

> Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> writes:
>
>>> Am 28.05.2015 um 11:37 schrieb Sandra Snan <sandra.snan@idiomdrottning.org>:
>>>> what happens if you put file: before a name?
>>> \definefontfamily[futura][sans][file:futuralt]
>>
>> Don’t use the “file:” prefix in the third argument.
>
> I don't understand this exchange.
>
>>> \setuppapersize[A4, portrait][A4, portrait]
>>
>> There is no “portrait” keyword for the \setuppapersize and you can also drop this line because ConTeXt uses A4 as default paper size.
>
> I was working from a template for A7 landscape that's why this was still
> in there.
>
> But a lot of the other stuff is just cargo-culted cruft and voodoo that
> has accumulated over the years of only rarely making new templates.
> Thank you for helping me clear it out.
>
> Here is the file now:
>
> % interface output=luatex
> \setuppagenumbering[location=]
> \setuplanguage[sv][leftquote=›,rightquote=‹,leftquotation=»,rightquotation=«]
> \mainlanguage [sv]
> \definefontfamily[futura][sans][Futura LT]
> \definefontfamily [praise][serif][junicode]
> \setupalign[justified,hanging,hz]
> \setupbodyfont[praise]
> \setuphead[section][style={\switchtotypeface[futura]}]
> \starttext
> $body$
> \stoptext
>
> % Still no luck with the Futura.
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Re: LuaTeX finds font, mtxrun --fonts does not list it?

[Wolfgang Schuster]

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> Sandra Snan <mailto:sandra.snan@idiomdrottning.org>
> 30. Mai 2016 um 14:25
> For some reason, it just started working today. After all this time. I
> have no idea what was going on.
> \definefontfamily[jeans][sans][file:futuralt]
> and then referring to to the font family "jeans" later on.
> Looks great, too.
The font declaration is still wrong and it’s more likely you get Latin 
Modern Sans
in your document which is used as fallback when the requested sans serif 
font
wasn’t found.

You can see in the attached document the output from the following example.
Only the first font defintion loads Futura, the third falls back to 
Latin Modern
because there is no font with the name “file:futura”.

\definefontfamily[realfutura][ss][Futura]
\definefontfamily[fakefutura][ss][Latin Modern Sans]
\definefontfamily[filefutura][ss][file:futura]

\starttext

\switchtobodyfont[realfutura]Is this Futura or Latin Modern Sans?

\switchtobodyfont[fakefutura]Is this Futura or Latin Modern Sans?

\switchtobodyfont[filefutura]Is this Futura or Latin Modern Sans?

\stoptext

Wolfgang

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