dictionary example

dictionary example

[jbf]

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I am wondering if someone has tried a two-column dictionary layout with 
ConTeXt. What is confounding me at the moment is the gap between entries 
in the columns. My MWE is below. Try as I may, I seem unable to get rid 
of those gaps! I obviously want each entry to follow on from the other. 
I'm obviously not doing things right! If someone has already set up a 
dictionary and has a model they could share I'd be grateful. I'm 
attaching a screenshot of the result from the code below.

Julian

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\setuphead[subsubject][before=,after=]

\definemarking[subsubject]
\setupheadertexts
[{\getmarking[subsubject][top]–\getmarking[subsubject][bottom]}][][{\getmarking[subsubject][top]–\getmarking[subsubject][bottom]}][]

\setupcolumns[n=2,align=raggedright,balance=no,tolerance={verytolerant,stretch}]
\definedescription[des][headstyle=bold,style=normal,alternative=serried, 
width=fit]
\starttext

\startsubject[title={A}]
\startsubsubject[marking={Term 1}]
\startcolumns
\startdes{term 1}1. bla. 2. bla bla 3. bla bla bla. {\em adjective}. 
\textbullet\hskip 2pt
\input weisman
\rightarrow {\bf something else}.
\stopdes
\stopsubsubject

\startsubsubject[marking={Term 2}]
\startdes{term 2}1. bla. 2. bla bla 3. bla bla bla. {\em noun} 
\textbullet\hskip 2pt \input weisman
\stopdes
\stopsubsubject

\startsubsubject[marking={Term 3}]
\startdes{term 3}1. bla. 2. bla bla 3. bla bla bla. {\em noun} 
\textbullet\hskip 2pt \input weisman
\stopdes
\stopcolumns
\stopsubsubject
\stopsubject


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Re: dictionary example

[Wolfgang Schuster]

jbf schrieb am 12.06.2021 um 12:39:
> I am wondering if someone has tried a two-column dictionary layout 
> with ConTeXt. What is confounding me at the moment is the gap between 
> entries in the columns. My MWE is below. Try as I may, I seem unable 
> to get rid of those gaps! I obviously want each entry to follow on 
> from the other. I'm obviously not doing things right! If someone has 
> already set up a dictionary and has a model they could share I'd be 
> grateful. I'm attaching a screenshot of the result from the code below.

The gaps between the entries are the subsubject titles where you omit 
the title. Omitting the title for a heading doesn't mean no space is 
inserted, to change this you can use the 'placehead=hidden' setting but 
I guess your goal is to add a mark entry for each description.

Wolfgang

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Re: dictionary example

[jbf]

Indeed, Wolfgang, the whole idea is to use whatever head (I chose 
subsubject, but am not tied to that) to be able to get headers which 
show me the first and last item on each page, as dictionaries usually 
do. So my next question would be... is there another way I can get a 
mark entry of this kind without using heads that automatically have 
spaces before and after (which is what I tried to get rid of with my 
before=, after= keys). Could I, for example, use \getmarking with 
specifically designed paragraphs?

BTW, I can do exactly what I need to do in LaTeX (have already produced 
a working model), but I want to be able to do it in ConTeXt. Maybe the 
approach I've taken thus far is the completely wrong one, which I why I 
was wondering if someone has already produced a standard dictionary 
format with ConTeXt.

Julian

On 12/6/21 11:25 pm, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> jbf schrieb am 12.06.2021 um 12:39:
>> I am wondering if someone has tried a two-column dictionary layout 
>> with ConTeXt. What is confounding me at the moment is the gap between 
>> entries in the columns. My MWE is below. Try as I may, I seem unable 
>> to get rid of those gaps! I obviously want each entry to follow on 
>> from the other. I'm obviously not doing things right! If someone has 
>> already set up a dictionary and has a model they could share I'd be 
>> grateful. I'm attaching a screenshot of the result from the code below.
>
> The gaps between the entries are the subsubject titles where you omit 
> the title. Omitting the title for a heading doesn't mean no space is 
> inserted, to change this you can use the 'placehead=hidden' setting 
> but I guess your goal is to add a mark entry for each description.
>
> Wolfgang
>
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Re: dictionary example

[jbf]

Assuming that the default space before and after a head (e.g. 
subsubject) is something like \blank[2*big], if there is a way I can 
change that default behaviour just for that particular head, then I can 
solve my problem. Is there such a possibility?

Julian

On 12/6/21 11:25 pm, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> jbf schrieb am 12.06.2021 um 12:39:
>> I am wondering if someone has tried a two-column dictionary layout 
>> with ConTeXt. What is confounding me at the moment is the gap between 
>> entries in the columns. My MWE is below. Try as I may, I seem unable 
>> to get rid of those gaps! I obviously want each entry to follow on 
>> from the other. I'm obviously not doing things right! If someone has 
>> already set up a dictionary and has a model they could share I'd be 
>> grateful. I'm attaching a screenshot of the result from the code below.
>
> The gaps between the entries are the subsubject titles where you omit 
> the title. Omitting the title for a heading doesn't mean no space is 
> inserted, to change this you can use the 'placehead=hidden' setting 
> but I guess your goal is to add a mark entry for each description.
>
> Wolfgang
>
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Re: dictionary example

[Hans Hagen]

On 6/13/2021 1:52 AM, jbf wrote:
> Assuming that the default space before and after a head (e.g. 
> subsubject) is something like \blank[2*big], if there is a way I can 
> change that default behaviour just for that particular head, then I can 
> solve my problem. Is there such a possibility?
\definehead[mysubject][subject]

and then set up mysubject differently

\startmysubject[title={....}]  etc

Hans


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Re: dictionary example

[jbf]

I worked out a solution - not quite what you are suggesting, but it 
works perfectly, and I can get ahead with the dictionary.

1st, I defined a paragraph based on subsubject. This enabled me to do 
away with the description I was using earlier and greatly simplifies 
each dictionary entry:

\definehead[entry][subsubject]
\setuphead [entry]
            [
              number=no,
              textdistance=3pt,
              alternative=text,
              align=raggedright,
              style=\bf,
              before={\vskip 0.5\lineheight}
           ]

2nd, note the before={\vskip 0.5\lineheight}. A bit of a hack one has to 
admit, but it solves the problem of reducing the gap between each entry.

All good.

Julian

On 13/6/21 5:48 pm, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 6/13/2021 1:52 AM, jbf wrote:
>> Assuming that the default space before and after a head (e.g. 
>> subsubject) is something like \blank[2*big], if there is a way I can 
>> change that default behaviour just for that particular head, then I 
>> can solve my problem. Is there such a possibility?
> \definehead[mysubject][subject]
>
> and then set up mysubject differently
>
> \startmysubject[title={....}]  etc
>
> Hans
>
>
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Re: dictionary example

[Hans Hagen]

On 6/13/2021 11:09 AM, jbf wrote:
> I worked out a solution - not quite what you are suggesting, but it 
> works perfectly, and I can get ahead with the dictionary.
> 
> 1st, I defined a paragraph based on subsubject. This enabled me to do 
> away with the description I was using earlier and greatly simplifies 
> each dictionary entry:
> 
> \definehead[entry][subsubject]
> \setuphead [entry]
>             [
>               number=no,
>               textdistance=3pt,
>               alternative=text,
>               align=raggedright,
>               style=\bf,
>               before={\vskip 0.5\lineheight}
>            ]
> 
> 2nd, note the before={\vskip 0.5\lineheight}. A bit of a hack one has to 
> admit, but it solves the problem of reducing the gap between each entry.

Instead of using \vskip try to use blank because that also handles 
whitespace and unwanted breaks.

\starttext

\showmakeup[line,glue]

\strut test

\blank[line]

\strut test

\blank[line]
\blank[back,halfline]

\strut test

\blank[back,halfline]

\strut test

\stoptext

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