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From: <josephcanedo@gmail.com>
To: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>,
	 mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: Changes in hyphenations with 2016-10-12 beta
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 21:00:32 +0200	[thread overview]
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Great, thanks a lot Hans. Not a big issue (some glues are bit more stretched than before here and there, but not to the point to have underfulls), but curious to understand.
Best regards

Joseph

De : Hans Hagen
Envoyé le :jeudi 13 octobre 2016 20:51
À : mailing list for ConTeXt users
Objet :Re: [NTG-context] Changes in hyphenations with 2016-10-12 beta

On 10/13/2016 7:37 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
> On 10/13/2016 11:56 AM, josephcanedo@gmail.com wrote:
>> Apparently this difference comes from this change in font-ots.lua near
>> line 603. If I edit the file to put back the discretionary_code
>> argument, the output is same with new beta.
>
> Hi Joseph,
>
> French hyphenation is unknown to me, but I have a different approach.

When messing with disc nodes one can argue if some of then need to 
become discretionary nodes or keep their other type. This change keeps 
it more original (of course one can  argue about it) which has some 
consequence for the number of passes that tex makes (pass without 
hyphenation, pass with hyphenation, pass with hyphenation and stretch)

i plan to makes things a bit more configureable in the alternative 
hyphenator

one can also argue that the first pass can be omitted (i.e. always go 
for the best solution)

>> MWE (well as close to MWE I could write, requires EBGaramond unfortunately).
>>
>> \language[fr]
>
> The document main language is invoked in ConTeXt with:
>
>     \mainlanguage[fr]
>
>> \setupalign[hanging, lesshyphenation, hz]
>
> I suspect that if you ask for less hyphenation, you get it.
>
> See my sample:
>
>     \mainlanguage[fr]
>     \setupalign[lesshyphenation]
>     \starttext
>     \hyphenatedword{T advint qu'il y eut famine au pays/ oultre la
>     premiere famine/ qui fut au temps de Abraham. Et Izahak s'en alla
>     vers Abimelech Roy des Philisthins en Gerar}
>     \stoptext
>
> \hyphenatedword is your friend here. I get different results if I
> comment the second line (to get normal hyphenation).
>
> I wonder whether this might be causing the issue you’re experiencing.
>
> Just in case it helps,
>
>
> Pablo
>


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      reply	other threads:[~2016-10-13 19:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-13  8:17 josephcanedo
2016-10-13  9:56 ` josephcanedo
2016-10-13 17:37   ` Pablo Rodriguez
2016-10-13 18:51     ` Hans Hagen
2016-10-13 19:00       ` josephcanedo [this message]

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