From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/74815 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: William Adams Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Scribus vs ConTeXt Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 07:56:02 -0500 Message-ID: <59DAC420-0F58-4CB0-A8E5-7D62A91DF3EC@frycomm.com> References: <1330457647.2820.77.camel@kip-laptop> <2D9F7C73-C362-485E-BC3A-B9FB7381AE9A@frycomm.com> <1330546240.3130.17.camel@kip-laptop> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1330606583 4955 80.91.229.3 (1 Mar 2012 12:56:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 12:56:23 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Mar 01 13:56:23 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S35YU-0006Ty-Qh for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 13:56:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 093A7CB273; Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:56:22 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id bsBL09iIexQd; Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:56:21 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9610CB262; Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:56:15 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9359CB262 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:56:14 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id VuOkrpbrMg-W for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:56:06 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter2-ams.mf.surf.net (filter2-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.70]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2239ACB25E for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:56:06 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from na3sys009aog110.obsmtp.com (na3sys009aog110.obsmtp.com [74.125.149.203]) by filter2-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with SMTP id q21Cu3FQ018553 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:56:04 +0100 Original-Received: from olympus.frycomm.com ([65.167.125.41]) by na3sys009aob110.postini.com ([74.125.148.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKT09x4qQm1JnY3IHNtY3AQkO6qWvd7i7R@postini.com; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 04:56:04 PST Original-Received: from [192.168.21.159] (charon.frycomm.com [65.167.125.1]) by olympus.frycomm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A089212F4 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2012 07:56:01 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=74.125.149.203; country=US; region=CA; city=Mountain View; postalcode=94043; latitude=37.4192; longitude=-122.0574; metrocode=807; areacode=650; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.4192,-122.0574&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0QGEcU3kM - 1692798ea573 - 20120301 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.87.102.70 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:74815 Archived-At: On Feb 29, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > I'd like to add that the mentioned GUI programs all are scriptable - > Scribus in Python (AFAIK), InDesign in JavaScript or AppleScript; > don't know about the current state of XPress, in old versions on the > Mac it supported Frontier, then AppleScript. As I noted, the oars are customizable. Unfortunately, there aren't many hooks in InDesign (and none I'm aware of in Quark) to activate scripts automatically, so that a document will build itself --- one which is pretty cool is Dirk Becker's auto-indexing script which will run a script to format index entries (so as to make up for InDesign's inability to capture character styles in index entries). Even more egregious is that many features in Quark are specifically prohibited from being scripted (last I checked), requiring one to use interface events. Moreover, as was recently noted on the InDesign mailing list, long document support in InDesign is sorely lacking (the new span columns feature trumps keep specifications for minimum number lines in a paragraph for example, and it's all-too easy to have an index in a book be too large to be generated by InDesign in one pass, requiring one to do it in sections, then use a script or a specialty indexing program to merge the sub-indices. Lastly, AIUI InDesign's (and probably Quark's) licensing prohibits remote usage from a server unless one purchases the Server version. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________