* formula label
@ 2008-12-04 11:46 Steffen Wolfrum
2008-12-04 13:28 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Steffen Wolfrum @ 2008-12-04 11:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,
this code
\setupformulas[location=left]
\placeformula \startformula
K = V + W(V) × S (Gleichung 1)
\stopformula
gives, as expected:
(1.1) K = V + W(V ) × S
But I need the following label ("Gleichung" means "formula"):
(Gleichung 1) K = V + W(V ) × S
How can this be done (in Mk II) ?
Thanks, Steffen.
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* Re: formula label
2008-12-04 11:46 formula label Steffen Wolfrum
@ 2008-12-04 13:28 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2008-12-04 13:39 ` Steffen Wolfrum
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2008-12-04 13:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 04.12.2008 um 12:46 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
> Hi,
>
> this code
> \setupformulas[location=left]
> \placeformula \startformula
> K = V + W(V) × S (Gleichung 1)
> \stopformula
>
> gives, as expected:
> (1.1) K = V + W(V ) × S
>
> But I need the following label ("Gleichung" means "formula"):
> (Gleichung 1) K = V + W(V ) × S
>
> How can this be done (in Mk II) ?
In the same way as you do it in MkIV :)
\setupformulas[way=bytext]
\setuplabeltext[de][formula=Gleichung~]
Wolfgang
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* Re: formula label
2008-12-04 13:28 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2008-12-04 13:39 ` Steffen Wolfrum
2008-12-04 14:09 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Steffen Wolfrum @ 2008-12-04 13:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 04.12.2008 um 14:28 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
>
> Am 04.12.2008 um 12:46 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> this code
>> \setupformulas[location=left]
>> \placeformula \startformula
>> K = V + W(V) × S (Gleichung 1)
>> \stopformula
>>
>> gives, as expected:
>> (1.1) K = V + W(V ) × S
>>
>> But I need the following label ("Gleichung" means "formula"):
>> (Gleichung 1) K = V + W(V ) × S
>>
>> How can this be done (in Mk II) ?
>
> In the same way as you do it in MkIV :)
>
> \setupformulas[way=bytext]
> \setuplabeltext[de][formula=Gleichung~]
Two remarks:
1) In this case the equation is not centered to textwidth anymore. It
is centered to the space that's left.
2) And what about if the author wants to add a footnote to this
respective formula?
An example could look like the following fake:
\noindent(Gleichung 2)\note[339]\hfill{$1 = -W'(V^*) × S$}\hfill
\hphantom{(Gleichung 2)\note[339]}
Steffen
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* Re: formula label
2008-12-04 13:39 ` Steffen Wolfrum
@ 2008-12-04 14:09 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2008-12-04 14:14 ` Steffen Wolfrum
2008-12-04 14:28 ` Hans Hagen
2008-12-04 14:30 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2008-12-04 14:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 04.12.2008 um 14:39 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
>
> Am 04.12.2008 um 14:28 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
>
>>
>> Am 04.12.2008 um 12:46 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> this code
>>> \setupformulas[location=left]
>>> \placeformula \startformula
>>> K = V + W(V) × S (Gleichung 1)
>>> \stopformula
>>>
>>> gives, as expected:
>>> (1.1) K = V + W(V ) × S
>>>
>>> But I need the following label ("Gleichung" means "formula"):
>>> (Gleichung 1) K = V + W(V ) × S
>>>
>>> How can this be done (in Mk II) ?
>>
>> In the same way as you do it in MkIV :)
>>
>> \setupformulas[way=bytext]
>> \setuplabeltext[de][formula=Gleichung~]
>
>
> Two remarks:
>
> 1) In this case the equation is not centered to textwidth anymore. It
> is centered to the space that's left.
\define[1]\FormulaNumber
{\rlap{(Gleichung~#1)}}
\setupformulas
[left=,
right=,
numbercommand=\FormulaNumber,
location=left]
> 2) And what about if the author wants to add a footnote to this
> respective formula?
>
> An example could look like the following fake:
> \noindent(Gleichung 2)\note[339]\hfill{$1 = -W'(V^*) × S$}\hfill
> \hphantom{(Gleichung 2)\note[339]}
Duno, I'm unable to use footnotes in math mode.
\starttext
foo\footnote{foo}
$bar\footnote{bar}$
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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* Re: formula label
2008-12-04 14:09 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2008-12-04 14:14 ` Steffen Wolfrum
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From: Steffen Wolfrum @ 2008-12-04 14:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 04.12.2008 um 15:09 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
>
> Am 04.12.2008 um 14:39 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
>
>>
>> Am 04.12.2008 um 14:28 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
>>
>>>
>>> Am 04.12.2008 um 12:46 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> this code
>>>> \setupformulas[location=left]
>>>> \placeformula \startformula
>>>> K = V + W(V) × S (Gleichung 1)
>>>> \stopformula
>>>>
>>>> gives, as expected:
>>>> (1.1) K = V + W(V ) × S
>>>>
>>>> But I need the following label ("Gleichung" means "formula"):
>>>> (Gleichung 1) K = V + W(V ) × S
>>>>
>>>> How can this be done (in Mk II) ?
>>>
>>> In the same way as you do it in MkIV :)
>>>
>>> \setupformulas[way=bytext]
>>> \setuplabeltext[de][formula=Gleichung~]
>>
>>
>> Two remarks:
>>
>> 1) In this case the equation is not centered to textwidth anymore. It
>> is centered to the space that's left.
>
> \define[1]\FormulaNumber
> {\rlap{(Gleichung~#1)}}
>
> \setupformulas
> [left=,
> right=,
> numbercommand=\FormulaNumber,
> location=left]
>
>> 2) And what about if the author wants to add a footnote to this
>> respective formula?
>>
>> An example could look like the following fake:
>> \noindent(Gleichung 2)\note[339]\hfill{$1 = -W'(V^*) × S$}\hfill
>> \hphantom{(Gleichung 2)\note[339]}
>
> Duno, I'm unable to use footnotes in math mode.
>
> \starttext
>
> foo\footnote{foo}
>
> $bar\footnote{bar}$
>
> \stoptext
>
> Wolfgang
Me too. That's the problem ;o)
Steffen
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* Re: formula label
2008-12-04 13:39 ` Steffen Wolfrum
2008-12-04 14:09 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2008-12-04 14:28 ` Hans Hagen
2008-12-04 15:28 ` Aditya Mahajan
2008-12-04 14:30 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2008-12-04 14:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
> Am 04.12.2008 um 14:28 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
>
>> Am 04.12.2008 um 12:46 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> this code
>>> \setupformulas[location=left]
>>> \placeformula \startformula
>>> K = V + W(V) × S (Gleichung 1)
>>> \stopformula
>>>
>>> gives, as expected:
>>> (1.1) K = V + W(V ) × S
>>>
>>> But I need the following label ("Gleichung" means "formula"):
>>> (Gleichung 1) K = V + W(V ) × S
>>>
>>> How can this be done (in Mk II) ?
>> In the same way as you do it in MkIV :)
>>
>> \setupformulas[way=bytext]
>> \setuplabeltext[de][formula=Gleichung~]
>
>
> Two remarks:
>
> 1) In this case the equation is not centered to textwidth anymore. It
> is centered to the space that's left.
indeed, because otherwise the label can run into the formula
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* Re: formula label
2008-12-04 13:39 ` Steffen Wolfrum
2008-12-04 14:09 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2008-12-04 14:28 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2008-12-04 14:30 ` Hans Hagen
2008-12-04 14:50 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2008-12-04 14:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
> Am 04.12.2008 um 14:28 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
>
>> Am 04.12.2008 um 12:46 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> this code
>>> \setupformulas[location=left]
>>> \placeformula \startformula
>>> K = V + W(V) × S (Gleichung 1)
>>> \stopformula
>>>
>>> gives, as expected:
>>> (1.1) K = V + W(V ) × S
>>>
>>> But I need the following label ("Gleichung" means "formula"):
>>> (Gleichung 1) K = V + W(V ) × S
>>>
>>> How can this be done (in Mk II) ?
>> In the same way as you do it in MkIV :)
>>
>> \setupformulas[way=bytext]
>> \setuplabeltext[de][formula=Gleichung~]
>
>
> Two remarks:
>
> 1) In this case the equation is not centered to textwidth anymore. It
> is centered to the space that's left.
>
> 2) And what about if the author wants to add a footnote to this
> respective formula?
>
> An example could look like the following fake:
> \noindent(Gleichung 2)\note[339]\hfill{$1 = -W'(V^*) × S$}\hfill
> \hphantom{(Gleichung 2)\note[339]}
maybe putting \postponefootnotes in front of the formula helps (future
mkiv versions might solve this in a better way; it has to do with the
fact that one cannot use inserts too deeply nested in tex constructs
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* Re: formula label
2008-12-04 14:30 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2008-12-04 14:50 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2008-12-04 15:07 ` Steffen Wolfrum
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2008-12-04 14:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 04.12.2008 um 15:30 schrieb Hans Hagen:
> Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>> Am 04.12.2008 um 14:28 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
>>
>>> Am 04.12.2008 um 12:46 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> this code
>>>> \setupformulas[location=left]
>>>> \placeformula \startformula
>>>> K = V + W(V) × S (Gleichung 1)
>>>> \stopformula
>>>>
>>>> gives, as expected:
>>>> (1.1) K = V + W(V ) × S
>>>>
>>>> But I need the following label ("Gleichung" means "formula"):
>>>> (Gleichung 1) K = V + W(V ) × S
>>>>
>>>> How can this be done (in Mk II) ?
>>> In the same way as you do it in MkIV :)
>>>
>>> \setupformulas[way=bytext]
>>> \setuplabeltext[de][formula=Gleichung~]
>>
>>
>> Two remarks:
>>
>> 1) In this case the equation is not centered to textwidth anymore. It
>> is centered to the space that's left.
>>
>> 2) And what about if the author wants to add a footnote to this
>> respective formula?
>>
>> An example could look like the following fake:
>> \noindent(Gleichung 2)\note[339]\hfill{$1 = -W'(V^*) × S$}\hfill
>> \hphantom{(Gleichung 2)\note[339]}
>
> maybe putting \postponefootnotes in front of the formula helps
> (future
> mkiv versions might solve this in a better way; it has to do with the
> fact that one cannot use inserts too deeply nested in tex constructs
This did solve it, here is new version for you, Steffen.
\setupformulas[way=bytext]
\let\theformulanote\relax
\define[1]\formulanote
{\def\theformulanote{#1}}%
\def\placeformulanote
{\doiftext\theformulanote{\postponefootnotes
\footnote{\theformulanote}}}
\define[1]\FormulaNumber
{\rlap{(Gleichung~#1)\placeformulanote}}
\setupformulas
[left=,
right=,
numbercommand=\FormulaNumber,
location=left]
\starttext
\chapter{dummy}
\placeformula
\startformula
\formulanote{one}
K = V + W(V) \times S
\stopformula
text\footnote{text}
\placeformula
\startformula
\formulanote{two}
K = V + W(V) \times S
\stopformula
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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* Re: formula label
2008-12-04 14:50 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2008-12-04 15:07 ` Steffen Wolfrum
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From: Steffen Wolfrum @ 2008-12-04 15:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
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v
Am 04.12.2008 um 15:50 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
>
> Am 04.12.2008 um 15:30 schrieb Hans Hagen:
>
>> Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>>> Am 04.12.2008 um 14:28 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
>>>
>>>> Am 04.12.2008 um 12:46 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> this code
>>>>> \setupformulas[location=left]
>>>>> \placeformula \startformula
>>>>> K = V + W(V) × S (Gleichung 1)
>>>>> \stopformula
>>>>>
>>>>> gives, as expected:
>>>>> (1.1) K = V + W(V ) × S
>>>>>
>>>>> But I need the following label ("Gleichung" means "formula"):
>>>>> (Gleichung 1) K = V + W(V ) × S
>>>>>
>>>>> How can this be done (in Mk II) ?
>>>> In the same way as you do it in MkIV :)
>>>>
>>>> \setupformulas[way=bytext]
>>>> \setuplabeltext[de][formula=Gleichung~]
>>>
>>>
>>> Two remarks:
>>>
>>> 1) In this case the equation is not centered to textwidth anymore.
>>> It
>>> is centered to the space that's left.
>>>
>>> 2) And what about if the author wants to add a footnote to this
>>> respective formula?
>>>
>>> An example could look like the following fake:
>>> \noindent(Gleichung 2)\note[339]\hfill{$1 = -W'(V^*) × S$}\hfill
>>> \hphantom{(Gleichung 2)\note[339]}
>>
>> maybe putting \postponefootnotes in front of the formula helps
>> (future
>> mkiv versions might solve this in a better way; it has to do with the
>> fact that one cannot use inserts too deeply nested in tex constructs
>
> This did solve it, here is new version for you, Steffen.
>
> \setupformulas[way=bytext]
>
> \let\theformulanote\relax
>
> \define[1]\formulanote
> {\def\theformulanote{#1}}%
>
> \def\placeformulanote
> {\doiftext\theformulanote{\postponefootnotes
> \footnote{\theformulanote}}}
>
> \define[1]\FormulaNumber
> {\rlap{(Gleichung~#1)\placeformulanote}}
>
> \setupformulas
> [left=,
> right=,
> numbercommand=\FormulaNumber,
> location=left]
>
> \starttext
>
> \chapter{dummy}
>
> \placeformula
> \startformula
> \formulanote{one}
> K = V + W(V) \times S
> \stopformula
>
> text\footnote{text}
>
> \placeformula
> \startformula
> \formulanote{two}
> K = V + W(V) \times S
> \stopformula
>
> \stoptext
>
> Wolfgang
Excellent!
Wolfgang / Hans thank you
Steffen
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* Re: formula label
2008-12-04 14:28 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2008-12-04 15:28 ` Aditya Mahajan
2008-12-04 19:52 ` Rory Molinari
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From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2008-12-04 15:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>> Am 04.12.2008 um 14:28 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
>>
>>> Am 04.12.2008 um 12:46 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> this code
>>>> \setupformulas[location=left]
>>>> \placeformula \startformula
>>>> K = V + W(V) × S (Gleichung 1)
>>>> \stopformula
>>>>
>>>> gives, as expected:
>>>> (1.1) K = V + W(V ) × S
>>>>
>>>> But I need the following label ("Gleichung" means "formula"):
>>>> (Gleichung 1) K = V + W(V ) × S
>>>>
>>>> How can this be done (in Mk II) ?
>>> In the same way as you do it in MkIV :)
>>>
>>> \setupformulas[way=bytext]
>>> \setuplabeltext[de][formula=Gleichung~]
>>
>>
>> Two remarks:
>>
>> 1) In this case the equation is not centered to textwidth anymore. It
>> is centered to the space that's left.
>
> indeed, because otherwise the label can run into the formula
And I am not sure what is a good algorithm to place the label. One can
measure the width of the formula content, the formula label, and compare
them with hsize. Then
if formula_width + 2*label_width < hsize
place formula in center of hsize, place label on right
else if formula_width + label_width < hsize
DONT_KNOW
else
place formula in the center of hszie, place label one the next line
endif
I do not know what is the right thing to do in the second case. Should we
place the label on the same line (with the formula content not centered)
or should we place the label on the next line. The easiest thing may be to
keep it configurable (labelalternative=tight|loose). At some stage we need
to redo the display formula macros in MKIV.
Aditya
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* Re: formula label
2008-12-04 15:28 ` Aditya Mahajan
@ 2008-12-04 19:52 ` Rory Molinari
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From: Rory Molinari @ 2008-12-04 19:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hello,
Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> if formula_width + 2*label_width < hsize
> place formula in center of hsize, place label on right
> else if formula_width + label_width < hsize
> DONT_KNOW
> else
> place formula in the center of hszie, place label one the next line
> endif
>
> I do not know what is the right thing to do in the second case. Should
> we place the label on the same line (with the formula content not
> centered) or should we place the label on the next line. The easiest
> thing may be to keep it configurable (labelalternative=tight|loose). At
> some stage we need to redo the display formula macros in MKIV.
My immediate reaction is that there should be only two cases: the first
one you identify (in which there is space for the label) and an "else"
case in which the label gets pushed to the next line. I find variations
in how formulae are centered to be distracting (but that is just my
preference).
Cheers,
Rory
>
> Aditya
>
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