* 6-sided letter fold (TRYPTICHON) with unequal page size
@ 2018-06-19 20:15 Marco Patzer
2018-06-27 16:35 ` Marco Patzer
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From: Marco Patzer @ 2018-06-19 20:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,
I try getting a 6-sided letterfold with unequal page size to work.
This is how it's supposed to look like:
https://www.saxoprint.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/roll-fold-leaflets-02-01.png
This is easy with the arranging option TRYPTICHON. *But* the page
sizes are not equal and manually adjusting them shifts them not the
way they're supposed to. Page 4 and 5 need to be a bit less wide to
be able to fold neatly.
Page width 1,2,3,6: 10cm
Page width 4,5: 9.7cm
How to adapt for the changed page size without an overlapping page 4
and a page with clearance to the adjacent 6th page? Suggestions
welcome!
Here the example you've all been waiting for:
%% 6-sided letter fold
%% https://www.saxoprint.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/roll-fold-leaflets-02-01.png
\definepapersize
[flyer]
[width=10cm, height=21cm]
\definepapersize
[flyer-small]
[width=9.7cm, height=21cm]
\setuppapersize
[flyer]
[A4, landscape]
\setuplayout [page]
\setuparranging [TRYPTICHON]
\starttext
\showframe
10cm:\blank \rightaligned{\blackrule[width=10cm]}\vfill{\tfd\currentpage}
\page
10cm:\blank[5mm] \blackrule[width=10cm]\vfill{\tfd\currentpage}
\page
10cm:\blank[8mm] \blackrule[width=10cm]\vfill{\tfd\currentpage}
\page
%% shifts page to the left, why?
\setuppapersize [flyer-small] [A4, landscape]
9.7cm:\blank[11mm] \rightaligned{\blackrule[width=9.7cm]}\vfill{\tfd\currentpage}
\page
\setuppapersize [flyer-small] [A4, landscape]
9.7cm:\blank[14mm] \blackrule[width=9.7cm]\vfill{\tfd\currentpage}
\page
\setuppapersize [flyer] [A4, landscape]
10cm:\blank[10mm] \blackrule[width=10cm]\vfill{\tfd\currentpage}
\stoptext
Marco
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* Re: 6-sided letter fold (TRYPTICHON) with unequal page size
2018-06-19 20:15 6-sided letter fold (TRYPTICHON) with unequal page size Marco Patzer
@ 2018-06-27 16:35 ` Marco Patzer
2018-06-27 16:42 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2018-06-27 17:54 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Marco Patzer @ 2018-06-27 16:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 22:15:31 +0200
Marco Patzer <lists@homerow.info> wrote:
> I try getting a 6-sided letterfold with unequal page size to work.
>
> […]
>
> How to adapt for the changed page size without an overlapping page 4
> and a page with clearance to the adjacent 6th page? Suggestions
> welcome!
Any clues, someone?
Marco
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* Re: 6-sided letter fold (TRYPTICHON) with unequal page size
2018-06-27 16:35 ` Marco Patzer
@ 2018-06-27 16:42 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2018-06-27 16:57 ` Marco Patzer
2018-06-27 17:54 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2018-06-27 16:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 2018-06-27 um 18:35 schrieb Marco Patzer <lists@homerow.info>:
> On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 22:15:31 +0200
> Marco Patzer <lists@homerow.info> wrote:
>
>> I try getting a 6-sided letterfold with unequal page size to work.
Hi Marco,
I'd not try that with pages and imposition, but just use two A4 pages and place my content on them - using layers or maybe column sets.
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Layers
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Columns#Column_Sets
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* Re: 6-sided letter fold (TRYPTICHON) with unequal page size
2018-06-27 16:42 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
@ 2018-06-27 16:57 ` Marco Patzer
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From: Marco Patzer @ 2018-06-27 16:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 18:42:40 +0200
Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net> wrote:
> I'd not try that with pages and imposition, but just use two A4 pages
> and place my content on them - using layers or maybe column sets.
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Layers
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Columns#Column_Sets
Sure, thought about that, too. But since there is a solution that
seems to be built for this very purpose, I thought before rolling my
own and duplicating the work, I'd just use it. And it almost works.
As I haven't been using the arranging mechanism, and therefore don't
know it (and its quirks), I thought there might be a simple fix. If
it's not, then I'll use layers.
Thanks for your input.
Marco
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* Re: 6-sided letter fold (TRYPTICHON) with unequal page size
2018-06-27 16:35 ` Marco Patzer
2018-06-27 16:42 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
@ 2018-06-27 17:54 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2018-06-27 18:40 ` Pablo Rodriguez
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2018-06-27 17:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
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This isn’t possible because the imposition mechanism puts the finished pages
in boxes with the same size.
Wolfgang
> Marco Patzer <mailto:lists@homerow.info>
> 27. Juni 2018 um 18:35
> On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 22:15:31 +0200
>
> Any clues, someone?
>
> Marco
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* Re: 6-sided letter fold (TRYPTICHON) with unequal page size
2018-06-27 17:54 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2018-06-27 18:40 ` Pablo Rodriguez
2018-06-27 19:18 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2018-06-28 15:01 ` Marco Patzer
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From: Pablo Rodriguez @ 2018-06-27 18:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 06/27/2018 07:54 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> This isn’t possible because the imposition mechanism puts the finished pages
> in boxes with the same size.
Wolfgang,
isn’t it a case for \definepageshift and \setuppageshift?
>> Marco Patzer 27. Juni 2018 um 18:35
>> On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 22:15:31 +0200
>>
>> Any clues, someone?
Marco,
how about having different backspace and cutspace values for the
required pages?
I think a mix of both might be required.
Pablo
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* Re: 6-sided letter fold (TRYPTICHON) with unequal page size
2018-06-27 18:40 ` Pablo Rodriguez
@ 2018-06-27 19:18 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2018-06-28 15:01 ` Marco Patzer
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2018-06-27 19:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> Pablo Rodriguez <mailto:oinos@gmx.es>
> 27. Juni 2018 um 20:40
> On 06/27/2018 07:54 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>> This isn’t possible because the imposition mechanism puts the finished pages
>> in boxes with the same size.
>
> Wolfgang,
>
> isn’t it a case for \definepageshift and \setuppageshift?
For most documents this should work.
\definepapersize[flyer][width=100mm,height=210mm]
\setuppapersize[flyer][A4,landscape]
\setuparranging [TRYPTICHON]
\definepageshift[flyer][horizontal][-3pt,0pt,0pt,0pt,-3pt,-3pt]
%\definepageshift[flyer][horizontal][-3pt,0pt,0pt,-1.5pt,-1.5pt,-3pt]
\setuppageshift[paper][flyer]
\showframe[page]
\starttext
\dorecurse{6}{\page[dummy]}
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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* Re: 6-sided letter fold (TRYPTICHON) with unequal page size
2018-06-27 18:40 ` Pablo Rodriguez
2018-06-27 19:18 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2018-06-28 15:01 ` Marco Patzer
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From: Marco Patzer @ 2018-06-28 15:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 20:40:52 +0200
Pablo Rodriguez <oinos@gmx.es> wrote:
> On 06/27/2018 07:54 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> > This isn’t possible because the imposition mechanism puts the
> > finished pages in boxes with the same size.
>
> Wolfgang,
>
> isn’t it a case for \definepageshift and \setuppageshift?
That works, indeed.
Thank you (and Wolfgang) for the suggestion.
Marco
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