* \hyphenation problem
@ 2017-10-22 17:18 Rik Kabel
2017-10-22 17:43 ` Pablo Rodriguez
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From: Rik Kabel @ 2017-10-22 17:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Or am I doing something wrong?
With the following, Schwarzenegger is not hyphenated according to the
instruction. I get:
\mainlanguage[en]
\hyphenation{Schwarz-en-egger}
\startexceptions[en]
epi-graphs
Mount-weazels
Mount-weazel
\stopexceptions
\starttext
\hyphenatedword{Schwarzenegger} \\
\hyphenatedword{Mountweazel} \\
\hyphenatedword{Mountweazels} \\
\hyphenatedword{epigraph} \\
\hyphenatedword{epigraphs}
\stoptext
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Rik
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread* Re: \hyphenation problem 2017-10-22 17:18 \hyphenation problem Rik Kabel @ 2017-10-22 17:43 ` Pablo Rodriguez 2017-10-22 20:16 ` Rik Kabel 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Pablo Rodriguez @ 2017-10-22 17:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context On 10/22/2017 07:18 PM, Rik Kabel wrote: > Or am I doing something wrong? > > With the following, Schwarzenegger is not hyphenated according to the > instruction. I get: Hi Rik, is there any reason not to include Schwarzenegger in the exceptions? In any case, either you use \hyphenation *after* the exceptions, or you include it in them. Both work fine. Just in case it helps, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: \hyphenation problem 2017-10-22 17:43 ` Pablo Rodriguez @ 2017-10-22 20:16 ` Rik Kabel 2017-10-23 16:07 ` Pablo Rodriguez 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Rik Kabel @ 2017-10-22 20:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context Thank you, Pablo, for the workaround. As to your question, it originally came about because of the order in which environment files were included in a document (one general to many documents, one specific to a new document). Between the times I created them, I switched from \hyphenation to \startexceptions. In general, however, it seems that \startexceptions provides fine-grained control by language, whilst \hyphenation appears to be broad-stroke across all languages, and so it might make sense to use both (or not) depending on how you want to hyphenate, for example, trade names or other proper nouns in a multi-language work. But this does have me wondering if I am cancelling hyphenation overrides made in the ConTeXt base code by way of \hyphenation when I use \startexceptions. Are there any such overrides standard? (I could not see any in a quick search of the source, but they may not be obvious to me if they exist.) In any case, the wiki has been updated, at least to warn of this ordering issue and to suggest that \startexceptions exists. I have no documentation of \startexceptions to add. -- Rik On 2017-10-22 13:43, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > On 10/22/2017 07:18 PM, Rik Kabel wrote: >> Or am I doing something wrong? >> >> With the following, Schwarzenegger is not hyphenated according to the >> instruction. I get: > Hi Rik, > > is there any reason not to include Schwarzenegger in the exceptions? > > In any case, either you use \hyphenation *after* the exceptions, or you > include it in them. Both work fine. > > Just in case it helps, > > Pablo ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: \hyphenation problem 2017-10-22 20:16 ` Rik Kabel @ 2017-10-23 16:07 ` Pablo Rodriguez 0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread From: Pablo Rodriguez @ 2017-10-23 16:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context On 10/22/2017 10:16 PM, Rik Kabel wrote: > Thank you, Pablo, for the workaround. > > As to your question, it originally came about because of the order in > which environment files were included in a document (one general to many > documents, one specific to a new document). Between the times I created > them, I switched from \hyphenation to \startexceptions. > > In general, however, it seems that \startexceptions provides > fine-grained control by language, whilst \hyphenation appears to be > broad-stroke across all languages, and so it might make sense to use > both (or not) depending on how you want to hyphenate, for example, trade > names or other proper nouns in a multi-language work. Hi Rik, see this sample: {\es \hyphenation{Schwarz-en-egger}} {\en \hyphenation{epi-graphs Mount-weazels Mount-weazel}} \hyphenation{Schwarz-en-egger} \starttext \startTEXpage[offset=1em] \hyphenatedword{Schwarzenegger} \\ {\es\hyphenatedword{Schwarzenegger}} \\ \hyphenatedword{Mountweazel} \\ \hyphenatedword{Mountweazels} \\ \hyphenatedword{epigraph} \\ \hyphenatedword{epigraphs} \stopTEXpage \stoptext I have just realized that it isn’t a question of \startexceptions, it is just \hyphenation itself. BTW, either I totally missing the issue or \hyphenation doesn’t work for all languages, it only works for US English (the default language). That being said, I wonder whether it makes sense to define two instances of hyphenation exceptions. > But this does have me wondering if I am cancelling hyphenation overrides > made in the ConTeXt base code by way of \hyphenation when I use > \startexceptions. Are there any such overrides standard? (I could not > see any in a quick search of the source, but they may not be obvious to > me if they exist.) I used \registerhyphenationexceptions and I didn’t get the impression it was so tricky. But this was years ago and I don’t remember which file it was. Sorry for not giving more help, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
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