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From: Hans Hagen via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
To: ntg-context@ntg.nl
Cc: Hans Hagen <j.hagen@freedom.nl>
Subject: [NTG-context] Re: Copy PDF text without hyphenated words
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2025 08:48:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5baea646-dde9-427d-986d-96cabc58aeb2@freedom.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4988738.31r3eYUQgx@falbala>

On 2/14/2025 2:19 AM, Gerion Entrup wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I recently learned that Typst seems to be able to produce PDFs where a hyphenated text can be copied without the hyphenation (so all words in the copied text are not hyphenated).
> I seem to recall that the PDF format has an extra mode for this, where the creation program can embed some text that should only appear when copied and replace the word parts that are visible on the page.
> 
> ConTeXt, in it's default mode, seems not to embed this text. When copying hyphenated words, the hyphenated word parts appear as distinct words (even without the hyphen). Is there a way to tell ConTeXt to produce PDF where the text can be copied without hyphenated words?

This is a fuzzy area and has always depended on how pdf viewers see 
things. The standard has some suggestions and oenm is to use soft 
hyphens which is what we do (can be turned off). From your description 
it looks like actual text is used and in this case, although one can 
make that work, to me it is not a solution, it not only polutes the page 
stream, it also can interferes with other features and increases overhead.

When a viewer sees aoft hyphen it is assumed that it looks for the next 
part of the word. Afaik acrobat reader can handle both variants. The 
other (open source) viewers that I use are a mixed bag (in areas like 
these).

Hans

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-14  7:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-14  1:19 [NTG-context] " Gerion Entrup
2025-02-14  7:48 ` Hans Hagen via ntg-context [this message]
2025-02-16  3:04   ` [NTG-context] " Gerion Entrup
2025-02-16  7:33     ` Marco Patzer
2025-02-16  8:06       ` Mikael Sundqvist
2025-02-17 11:44     ` Ulrike Fischer

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