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From: "Olivier Guéry" <nemolivier@gmail.com>
To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: luatex feature question/request
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:19:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5c2c86e70804160319r6ec5c4bbx9f735b6e453b6c9d@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4805BDCB.3060604@wxs.nl>

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> Arthur Reutenauer wrote:
>  >>                                                but if we support such a
>  >> thing, we need a better specification; there are probably more space
>  >> related chars that needs treatment then
>  >
>  >   There's not much to it, actually.  There are some space characters in
>  > Unicode, and we should handle them as much Unicode-compliantly as
>  > possible; and there are some particular typographic conventions on top
>  > of that, for each language.  It's easy to come up with a simple scheme
>  > to support both, and I've already outlined it on a different
>  > mailing-list (http://tug.org/pipermail/xetex/2008-February/008529.html).
>  > The problem is to decide how much of the users' old typing habits we
>
>  this is indeed an important point ... we don't want to cripple default
>  behaviour by that (we already have -- --- and such)

The spaces before « ; » and others are not the same habits than « -- »
and « --- ». « -- » is TeX specific, the spaces no, it's just a french
habit.

>  the problem with all these automatisms is that it then becomes
>  impossible to do something verbatim, i.e bypass those mechamisms

I can't imagine a french text without those spaces. So maybe this
specific question should be on for all french text, and something like
\setcharacterspacing [frenchpunctuation]  [no] can be use for the
excepts.

(For sure questions like always indenting the paragraphs are more
complex since modern typography sometime don't put them).

>  >   I can discuss that with you at BachoTeX, Hans.  It's best done around
>  > a beer or two, anyway ;-)
>
>  sure, enough beer at bachotek anyway ...

If it can be solve with a beer ;o)

Olivier.

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-16 10:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-04  5:09 Marcin Borkowski
2008-04-04  7:50 ` Hans Hagen
2008-04-04  8:33   ` Taco Hoekwater
2008-04-04  8:38     ` luigi scarso
2008-04-04  8:52       ` Taco Hoekwater
2008-04-04  8:58         ` Olivier Guéry
2008-04-04  9:08           ` Hans Hagen
2008-04-04 11:02             ` Olivier Guéry
2008-04-04 11:15               ` Wolfgang Schuster
2008-04-04 12:26                 ` Olivier Guéry
2008-04-04 12:55                   ` Peter Münster
2008-04-04 13:15                     ` Olivier Guéry
2008-04-04 15:15                       ` Peter Münster
2008-04-04 20:23                         ` Olivier Guéry
2008-04-04 12:26               ` Hans Hagen
2008-04-04 13:09                 ` Olivier Guéry
2008-04-15 19:18                   ` Hans Hagen
2008-04-15 19:54                     ` Olivier Guéry
2008-04-16  0:40                     ` Arthur Reutenauer
2008-04-16  8:50                       ` Hans Hagen
2008-04-16 10:19                         ` Olivier Guéry [this message]
2008-04-16 12:46                           ` Peter Münster
2008-04-16 14:20                             ` Hans Hagen
2008-04-04 10:16           ` Peter Münster
2008-04-04  9:19         ` luigi scarso
2008-04-04 19:26         ` Peter Münster
2008-04-04 19:48           ` Aditya Mahajan
2008-04-04 20:03             ` Peter Münster
2008-04-04 20:07             ` Hans Hagen
2008-04-04 20:20           ` Taco Hoekwater
2008-04-04  9:57   ` Marcin Borkowski
2008-07-04 10:54 Marcin Borkowski
2008-07-04 14:23 ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
2008-07-04 15:01   ` Olivier
2008-07-04 17:38     ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
2008-07-04 20:34       ` Hans Hagen
2008-07-04 20:39   ` Hans Hagen

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