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From: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>
To: "Hans Åberg" <haberg-1@telia.com>
Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: Latin setupmathematics
Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 19:59:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5e12591d-8f6a-6c5a-17f3-c5b502427175@wxs.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E6F11309-3788-4D52-9501-60811CDFFAD0@telia.com>

On 5/15/2016 7:42 PM, Hans Åberg wrote:

>> (where of course we default to default=italic)
>
> Yes, but perhaps another name than “default”.

well, it is \mathdefault that is used and then gets set ... so default 
suits well (something latin in the name just sounds weird)

>> i have no problem adding that (basically one can even go as far as disabling every mapping assuming pure unicode input but i guess that users then would still ask for \mathfoo commands)
>
> I think it is simplest to just align with Unicode.

i guess many math users don't agree with you as tex lingua and behaviour 
is kind of default ... also, it will take a while before wordprocessors 
provide the right visual clues

>> and of course we need more math fonts that have monospace (one is in the making in the gyre project)
>
> It is available in the STIX fonts. These, and the sans-serif math styles are added in error of the idea of expressing math semantics, as pure math uses serifs, and applied sciences may use sans-serif. In computer code, in the past, like the 1980s, one did not care about monospace in books, and there is no semantic difference between styles. Keywords might for example be displayed i bold, but there is not semantic difference to when they are not.

pure math is fuzzy ... many domains and habits

> Perhaps TeX commands might use the monospace math styles. Then the backslash “\” would not be needed. But right now, input would be cumbersome.

there will always be some kind of escape

also, the lack of an upright alphabet in unicode will always make some 
'x' in the input either math of text so one also needs to indicate where 
math starts and ends

Hans

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-15 17:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-14 17:11 Hans Åberg
2016-05-15 13:37 ` Hans Hagen
2016-05-15 14:15   ` Hans Åberg
2016-05-15 14:28   ` Hans Åberg
2016-05-15 14:44     ` Wolfgang Schuster
2016-05-15 16:06       ` Hans Åberg
2016-05-15 16:36       ` Hans Åberg
2016-05-15 17:12         ` Hans Hagen
2016-05-15 17:28           ` Hans Åberg
2016-05-15 18:06             ` Hans Hagen
2016-05-15 18:34               ` Hans Åberg
2016-05-15 17:08     ` Hans Hagen
2016-05-15 17:42       ` Hans Åberg
2016-05-15 17:59         ` Hans Hagen [this message]
2016-05-15 18:31           ` Hans Åberg
2016-05-15 18:42             ` Hans Hagen
2016-05-15 20:06               ` Hans Åberg
2016-05-15 21:18                 ` Hans Hagen
2016-05-15 21:55                   ` Hans Åberg
     [not found]                     ` <f175caa5-45df-5df6-d5a9-5bf9340a6f0d@wxs.nl>
2016-05-16  8:27                       ` Hans Åberg
2016-05-16  8:48                         ` Hans Hagen
2016-05-16  8:59                           ` Hans Åberg
2016-05-16  9:10                             ` Hans Hagen
2016-05-16 12:07                               ` Hans Åberg
2016-06-16 19:15                 ` Hans Åberg
2016-06-16 21:48                   ` Hans Hagen
2016-06-16 23:02                     ` Hans Åberg
2016-06-17  4:20                       ` Alan BRASLAU
2016-06-17  8:15                         ` Hans Åberg

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