* [NTG-context] Offline documentations [not found] <CACa+7H8kYq4QtBnb-cJN2DQokYfYZddkqH5RpqNHzm-o_RT2_Q@mail.gmail.com> @ 2023-10-02 7:59 ` Juliano David Hilario 2023-10-02 8:24 ` [NTG-context] " Henning Hraban Ramm 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Juliano David Hilario @ 2023-10-02 7:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 491 bytes --] Is there a way to view the documentations offline? Sort of the way the Python docs work, where you could just search for a subject and it will function regardless of internet connection. If it's not yet working, I could contribute some of my time if it's not that a heavy of a task. Something like this would be convient, since some like to search by topic. Though since we probably have the common ground of liking writing, we, or most of us, prefer referring to current manuals out there. [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 606 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 495 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* [NTG-context] Re: Offline documentations 2023-10-02 7:59 ` [NTG-context] Offline documentations Juliano David Hilario @ 2023-10-02 8:24 ` Henning Hraban Ramm 2023-10-02 8:32 ` Juliano David Hilario 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2023-10-02 8:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Am 02.10.23 um 09:59 schrieb Juliano David Hilario: > Is there a way to view the documentations offline? Sort of the way the > Python docs work, where you could just search for a subject and it will > function regardless of internet connection. If it's not yet working, I > could contribute some of my time if it's not that a heavy of a task. > Something like this would be convient, since some like to search by > topic. Though since we probably have the common ground of liking > writing, we, or most of us, prefer referring to current manuals out there. Well, the documentation is spread over several PDF files, and the wiki is not usable offline, of course. You can grep through the sources of the manuals (in texmf-context/doc/context/sources). And there is a command reference browser: mtxrun --script server --auto and the open http://localhost:8088/mtx-server-ctx-help.lua But since it just shows what’s in the interface files, it lacks any explanations. Hraban ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* [NTG-context] Re: Offline documentations 2023-10-02 8:24 ` [NTG-context] " Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2023-10-02 8:32 ` Juliano David Hilario 2023-10-02 8:37 ` Juliano David Hilario ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Juliano David Hilario @ 2023-10-02 8:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2006 bytes --] If I were to download the entire wiki with the exception of the discussion files and the user pages, do you think it would be wise? I would try to make it dynamically updatable too, if possible, and also try to make as offline-friendly as the Python docs. Do you think that would be wise? Thank you for your help, the wiki is very useful. On Mon, Oct 2, 2023, 4:29 PM Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net> wrote: > Am 02.10.23 um 09:59 schrieb Juliano David Hilario: > > Is there a way to view the documentations offline? Sort of the way the > > Python docs work, where you could just search for a subject and it will > > function regardless of internet connection. If it's not yet working, I > > could contribute some of my time if it's not that a heavy of a task. > > Something like this would be convient, since some like to search by > > topic. Though since we probably have the common ground of liking > > writing, we, or most of us, prefer referring to current manuals out > there. > > Well, the documentation is spread over several PDF files, and the wiki > is not usable offline, of course. > > You can grep through the sources of the manuals (in > texmf-context/doc/context/sources). > > And there is a command reference browser: > > mtxrun --script server --auto > > and the open > http://localhost:8088/mtx-server-ctx-help.lua > > But since it just shows what’s in the interface files, it lacks any > explanations. > > Hraban > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : https://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 2995 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 495 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* [NTG-context] Re: Offline documentations 2023-10-02 8:32 ` Juliano David Hilario @ 2023-10-02 8:37 ` Juliano David Hilario 2023-10-02 8:55 ` Henning Hraban Ramm 2023-10-02 8:47 ` Henning Hraban Ramm 2023-10-02 8:57 ` Thomas A. Schmitz 2 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Juliano David Hilario @ 2023-10-02 8:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2460 bytes --] Also, if I were to do that, I might just make at the moment some sort of search engine, or grep it when I need something, then view whatever I need in the wiki. I'm just wondering if it's fine if I were to send many GET requests and obtain a copy of the wiki. Would that act like a DDoS attack? On Mon, Oct 2, 2023, 4:32 PM Juliano David Hilario < yellowcutterpillow@gmail.com> wrote: > If I were to download the entire wiki with the exception of the discussion > files and the user pages, do you think it would be wise? I would try to > make it dynamically updatable too, if possible, and also try to make as > offline-friendly as the Python docs. Do you think that would be wise? Thank > you for your help, the wiki is very useful. > > On Mon, Oct 2, 2023, 4:29 PM Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net> wrote: > >> Am 02.10.23 um 09:59 schrieb Juliano David Hilario: >> > Is there a way to view the documentations offline? Sort of the way the >> > Python docs work, where you could just search for a subject and it will >> > function regardless of internet connection. If it's not yet working, I >> > could contribute some of my time if it's not that a heavy of a task. >> > Something like this would be convient, since some like to search by >> > topic. Though since we probably have the common ground of liking >> > writing, we, or most of us, prefer referring to current manuals out >> there. >> >> Well, the documentation is spread over several PDF files, and the wiki >> is not usable offline, of course. >> >> You can grep through the sources of the manuals (in >> texmf-context/doc/context/sources). >> >> And there is a command reference browser: >> >> mtxrun --script server --auto >> >> and the open >> http://localhost:8088/mtx-server-ctx-help.lua >> >> But since it just shows what’s in the interface files, it lacks any >> explanations. >> >> Hraban >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to >> the Wiki! >> >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / >> https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >> webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net >> archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ >> wiki : https://contextgarden.net >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 3769 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 495 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* [NTG-context] Re: Offline documentations 2023-10-02 8:37 ` Juliano David Hilario @ 2023-10-02 8:55 ` Henning Hraban Ramm 2023-10-02 9:07 ` Hans van der Meer via ntg-context 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2023-10-02 8:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context Am 02.10.23 um 10:37 schrieb Juliano David Hilario: > Also, if I were to do that, I might just make at the moment some sort of > search engine, or grep it when I need something, then view whatever I > need in the wiki. I'm just wondering if it's fine if I were to send many > GET requests and obtain a copy of the wiki. Would that act like a DDoS > attack? For a DDoS attack you’d need more (for one, it’s not distributed, so at most DoS). I assume it should be ok if you don’t do it too often (like hourly). And of course you’re expected to report wrong/outdated information and to help with updating it. Hraban ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* [NTG-context] Re: Offline documentations 2023-10-02 8:55 ` Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2023-10-02 9:07 ` Hans van der Meer via ntg-context 2023-10-02 15:57 ` Juliano David Hilario 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Hans van der Meer via ntg-context @ 2023-10-02 9:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: NTG ConTeXt; +Cc: Hans van der Meer [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 457 bytes --] I find offline documentation in the installed ConteXt files in ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/doc/context/documents/general/manuals with more in neighboring directories. Hope this helps. met vriendelijke groet, dr. Hans van der Meer Burgemeester Rijnderslaan 244 ingang D 1185 MC Amstelveen tel. 020 6452701 / 06 53743629 > On 2 Oct 2023, at 10:55, Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net> wrote: > > > __________________________________________ [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 2175 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 495 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* [NTG-context] Re: Offline documentations 2023-10-02 9:07 ` Hans van der Meer via ntg-context @ 2023-10-02 15:57 ` Juliano David Hilario 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Juliano David Hilario @ 2023-10-02 15:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1136 bytes --] @Thomas I think so too, Thanks Hans, I'll take a look at it! On Mon, Oct 2, 2023, 5:15 PM Hans van der Meer via ntg-context < ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote: > I find offline documentation in the installed ConteXt files in > ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/doc/context/documents/general/manuals > with more in neighboring directories. Hope this helps. > > met vriendelijke groet, > dr. Hans van der Meer > Burgemeester Rijnderslaan 244 ingang D > 1185 MC Amstelveen > tel. 020 6452701 / 06 53743629 > > On 2 Oct 2023, at 10:55, Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net> wrote: > > > __________________________________________ > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : https://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 3258 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 495 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* [NTG-context] Re: Offline documentations 2023-10-02 8:32 ` Juliano David Hilario 2023-10-02 8:37 ` Juliano David Hilario @ 2023-10-02 8:47 ` Henning Hraban Ramm 2023-10-02 8:57 ` Thomas A. Schmitz 2 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2023-10-02 8:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context Am 02.10.23 um 10:32 schrieb Juliano David Hilario: > If I were to download the entire wiki with the exception of the > discussion files and the user pages, do you think it would be wise? I > would try to make it dynamically updatable too, if possible, and also > try to make as offline-friendly as the Python docs. Do you think that > would be wise? Thank you for your help, the wiki is very useful. I don’t know if it’s wise. It’s a MediaWiki, there are solutions around, e.g.: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Exporting_all_the_files_of_a_wiki https://github.com/WikiTeam/wikiteam One is even built-in: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Special:Export (you would need a local MediaWiki instance a import the pages there). See also https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Export You can also use curl to recursively download all contents of a website. Hraban ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* [NTG-context] Re: Offline documentations 2023-10-02 8:32 ` Juliano David Hilario 2023-10-02 8:37 ` Juliano David Hilario 2023-10-02 8:47 ` Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2023-10-02 8:57 ` Thomas A. Schmitz 2 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2023-10-02 8:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On 02.10.23 10:32, Juliano David Hilario wrote: > If I were to download the entire wiki with the exception of the > discussion files and the user pages, do you think it would be wise? I > would try to make it dynamically updatable too, if possible, and also > try to make as offline-friendly as the Python docs. Do you think that > would be wise? Thank you for your help, the wiki is very useful. > That doesn't answer your question if it would be wise, but if you manage to write a script that would create an archive of the wiki in a useful format for off-line browsing and keep it reasonably up to date, that would be a wonderful thing to have. I regularly find myself in situations where I don't have internet access and would love to have a look at the wiki. On the other hand: there is a lot of cruft on the wiki, badly outdated pages that relate to mkii etc. But selecting the ones that are good and getting rid of the others would be a huge amount of work... Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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