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From: Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com>
To: Denis Maier <denismaier@mailbox.org>
Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: [NTG-context] Re: \par and \startlines
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 19:29:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5fb17e1a-8d3b-1c51-bdae-c4695548ff51@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <162595028.64485.1714151930562@office.mailbox.org>


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Denis Maier schrieb am 26.04.2024 um 19:18:
>> Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com> hat am 
>> 26.04.2024 18:24 CEST geschrieben:
>> Denis Maier via ntg-context schrieb am 26.04.2024 um 18:10:
>>>> Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl 
>>>> <mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> hat am 26.04.2024 17:25 CEST geschrieben:
>>>> On 4/26/24 15:33, denis.maier@unibe.ch 
>>>> <mailto:denis.maier@unibe.ch> wrote:
>>>>> Hi, 
>>>>> I’m trying to typeset a poem from XML, but I can’t figure out how to
>>>>> make the inbetween key working here. 
>>>>> As the source is XML, I cannot just add an empty line to start a new
>>>>> group of lines inside \startlines…\stoplines. I guess, there must 
>>>>> be a
>>>>> command to do that, but \par seems to have no effect here. 
>>>>> How can this be done? 
>>>> Hi Denis,
>>>> I must confess I don’t get which is your actual question.
>>>> \blank works here and you know that (since you included it in your 
>>>> code).
>>>> MkIV with \par works in your sample and LMTX with \par doesn’t.
>>>> I wonder whether this might be a bug in LMTX.
>>>> Just in case it might help, 
>>> Thanks for your answer and sorry for not being clearer. I was just 
>>> wondering why the \par seems to have no effect. (I first guessed 
>>> that it might be related to XML, to but then realized it happens 
>>> with context markup as well. Usually, you won't run into this 
>>> because an empty line works, but with XML that's not am option.) As 
>>> you've said, it looks like a bug then. 
>>
>> The lines environment treats each line of the input as paragraph by 
>> adding \par at the end of it and adding another \par makes no 
>> difference here.
>>
>> BTW: ConTeXt has a module for poems which can be loaded with 
>> \usemodule[format].
>>
>> Wolfgang
>>
> Ok. I'll have a look at this module. Just two questions:
> 1. so did this behavior change?
> 2. What is inbetween referring to then? If each line is a paragraph, 
> what's this group of paragraphs then? Can you manually switch to the 
> next one?

The inbetween setting works because ConTeXt checks at the start of each 
line whether it's empty (in this case the value is used) or not.

When you add a \par you just end the current line/paragraph and it 
doesn't matter how many \par's you use because TeX just ignores them.

Wolfgang


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  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-26 17:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-26 13:33 [NTG-context] " denis.maier
2024-04-26 15:25 ` [NTG-context] " Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context
2024-04-26 16:10   ` Denis Maier via ntg-context
2024-04-26 16:24     ` Wolfgang Schuster
2024-04-26 17:18       ` Denis Maier via ntg-context
2024-04-26 17:29         ` Wolfgang Schuster [this message]
2024-04-26 17:52           ` Denis Maier via ntg-context
2024-04-26 19:09             ` Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context
2024-04-26 20:29             ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2024-04-27  5:39             ` Wolfgang Schuster
2024-04-30 12:28               ` Denis Maier via ntg-context
2024-05-01  7:44                 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2024-05-01  8:08                   ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2024-04-27  7:24       ` Henning Hraban Ramm

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