new windows iso versions

new windows iso versions

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded new bzips, these are my minimal context trees:

http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/linuxtex.zip.bz2
http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/macosxtex.zip.bz2
http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/mswintex.zip.bz2

and this is for windows users, i.e. a subset of fptex:

http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/tex.iso.bz2
http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/tex.tar.bz2

These two are some 144 Meg. There is also the texsyncable tree.

A few remarks:

(1) the cd has an autorun file
(2) and also start.bat and demo.bat files
(3) whatever you choose, it will also start the example framework
(4) which means that you have some goodies (recently added: font tester; 
interface is accessible from tools menu)
(5) the demo files at least can prove that tex/metapost/xml work
(6) afaik it works all right on spacy install paths
(7) as well as (when running from cdrom) on the local (often spacy) user 
temp path
(8) more example interfaced stuff will follow and the interface macros 
itself will be documented later

i'll try to get this working for linux as well (alas, ruby is not yet 
standard on unix and i need to get rid of hard coded scite paths) as well 
as macosx (dunno how to make a texshop-using-small-context-tree-run-from-cd 
version yet; no scite on mac yet)

I can add support for more editors later; the idea is that this provides a 
kind of standard.

The example framework is now multi-threaded. The more extended 
client-server alternative will follow later.

Hans



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SciTE Mac

[Adam Lindsay]

Hans Hagen said this at Tue, 13 Apr 2004 19:51:54 +0200:

>no scite on mac yet

http://homepage.mac.com/atl/tex/#other

I spent yesterday doing a "quick" port of SciTE for Mac OS X (XWindow
system only!), and bundled up the libraries (and ConTeXt config files,
with a couple mac-friendly mods) at the above URL. I mostly did it out of
interest and to see what it was like. If other Mac users are curious,
take a look (but don't expect any help ;p ).

Cheers,
adam
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Re: SciTE Mac

[Hans Hagen]

At 14:23 26/05/2004, Adam Lindsay wrote:
>Hans Hagen said this at Tue, 13 Apr 2004 19:51:54 +0200:
>
> >no scite on mac yet
>
>http://homepage.mac.com/atl/tex/#other
>
>I spent yesterday doing a "quick" port of SciTE for Mac OS X (XWindow
>system only!), and bundled up the libraries (and ConTeXt config files,
>with a couple mac-friendly mods) at the above URL. I mostly did it out of
>interest and to see what it was like. If other Mac users are curious,
>take a look (but don't expect any help ;p ).

great! i'll see if i can hook in my menus and thingies

(i'll come back to this asap, tomorrow is the dutch user group day, so 
there is some delay)

Hans  

Re: SciTE Mac

[Adam Lindsay]

Hans Hagen said this at Wed, 26 May 2004 18:23:16 +0200:

>great! i'll see if i can hook in my menus and thingies

Your menus and thingies in (public) ConTeXt are already there. I actually
stuck them in the scite/*.properties directory so that it opens up ready
to go, ConTeXt-wise. Was that what you meant?

>(i'll come back to this asap, tomorrow is the dutch user group day, so 
>there is some delay)

No prob. no rush.
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Re: Re: SciTE Mac

[Hans Hagen]

At 18:39 26/05/2004, you wrote:
>Hans Hagen said this at Wed, 26 May 2004 18:23:16 +0200:
>
> >great! i'll see if i can hook in my menus and thingies
>
>Your menus and thingies in (public) ConTeXt are already there. I actually
>stuck them in the scite/*.properties directory so that it opens up ready
>to go, ConTeXt-wise. Was that what you meant?

indeed, but now i have them 3 times in the prop edit menu, so maybe there 
are dups now;

what we also need is a variant of --autopdf, i.e, is there a one-liner like:

kill "the pid that has arobat open"


i can now add mscite to the cdrom-image:

#!/bin/sh

. /usr/local/context/tex/setuptex /usr/local/context/tex

# we need to extent the path for ruby and scite

PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin
export PATH

SciTE &

(how to auto start X)

next week i'll start playing a bit with xetex and those unicode fonts (we 
need to move that code into pdftex -); i can work much faster with a scite 
like editor and this way i can use windows and mac along side


Hans     

Re: Re: SciTE Mac

[Adam Lindsay]

Hans Hagen said this at Wed, 26 May 2004 19:16:17 +0200:

>At 18:39 26/05/2004, you wrote:
>>Hans Hagen said this at Wed, 26 May 2004 18:23:16 +0200:
>>
>> >great! i'll see if i can hook in my menus and thingies
>>
>>Your menus and thingies in (public) ConTeXt are already there. I actually
>>stuck them in the scite/*.properties directory so that it opens up ready
>>to go, ConTeXt-wise. Was that what you meant?
>
>indeed, but now i have them 3 times in the prop edit menu, so maybe there 
>are dups now;

oops. probably because they were already present and/or some of your
local command-names/numbers have changed?

>what we also need is a variant of --autopdf, i.e, is there a one-liner like:
>
>kill "the pid that has arobat open"

% killall Acrobat
 (Although the free version is "Adobe Reader 6.0" now...)

>SciTE &
>
>(how to auto start X)

% open-x11 SciTE
(no ampersand needed, and it seems to be nice: launches X11 if needed,
brings the window forward if already launched...)

>next week i'll start playing a bit with xetex and those unicode fonts (we 
>need to move that code into pdftex -);

I'm blown away by XeTeX, but it has only given me a bus error since I had
it going in its version 0.3. My tex trees need a clean... 

> i can work much faster with a scite 
>like editor and this way i can use windows and mac along side

Nice. It has a way to go before it replaces iTeXMac (or emacs!) for me.
Perhaps if there was nice folding, SciTE would be more tempting. But I
see the value in a uniform editor across platforms.

adam
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Re: SciTE Mac

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am Mittwoch, 26.05.04, um 14:23 Uhr (Europe/Zurich) schrieb Adam 
Lindsay:
> http://homepage.mac.com/atl/tex/#other
> I spent yesterday doing a "quick" port of SciTE for Mac OS X (XWindow
> system only!), and bundled up the libraries (and ConTeXt config files,
> with a couple mac-friendly mods) at the above URL. I mostly did it out 
> of
> interest and to see what it was like. If other Mac users are curious,
> take a look (but don't expect any help ;p ).

Thank you for your work - but it doesn't run on Jaguar (my Panther 
isn't here yet).
Could you distribute the sources, too?



Grüßlis vom Hraban!
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Re: SciTE Mac

[Adam Lindsay]

Henning Hraban Ramm said this at Wed, 26 May 2004 22:46:07 +0200:

>Thank you for your work - but it doesn't run on Jaguar (my Panther 
>isn't here yet).
>Could you distribute the sources, too?

The sources are absolutely unchanged from the Scintilla & GTK+2.0
sources. I just traced through the dependencies that weren't already
present on a Panther system. That's what took all day.

Darwin Ports would probably get you GTK a lot quicker. You probably could
build SciTE on top of that.

If you're really interested, I made a little diagram of the missing libs
I found. I could annotate that with what I can remember of the build
tricks I needed. Nothing fancy, just drudge work.

adam
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Re: SciTE Mac

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am Donnerstag, 27.05.04, um 00:49 Uhr (Europe/Zurich) schrieb Adam 
Lindsay:
> The sources are absolutely unchanged from the Scintilla & GTK+2.0
> sources. I just traced through the dependencies that weren't already
> present on a Panther system. That's what took all day.
>
> Darwin Ports would probably get you GTK a lot quicker. You probably 
> could
> build SciTE on top of that.
>
> If you're really interested, I made a little diagram of the missing 
> libs
> I found. I could annotate that with what I can remember of the build
> tricks I needed. Nothing fancy, just drudge work.

I'd be glad if you could write together these tricks.
But my installation is so messy (Fink stuff, a lot of self-compiled 
stuff and several different ports stuff...) that I probably should wait 
until I set up a clean Panther system.


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Re: SciTE Mac

[Adam Lindsay]

Henning Hraban Ramm said this at Thu, 27 May 2004 18:15:05 +0200:

>I'd be glad if you could write together these tricks.
>But my installation is so messy (Fink stuff, a lot of self-compiled 
>stuff and several different ports stuff...) that I probably should wait 
>until I set up a clean Panther system.

The dependency diagram (with the two main tricks I could remember) are up at:
 <http://homepage.mac.com/atl/tex/gtk-dependencies.pdf>

Good luck!
adam

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Re: SciTE Mac

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am Dienstag, 01.06.04, um 13:13 Uhr (Europe/Zurich) schrieb Adam 
Lindsay:
> The dependency diagram (with the two main tricks I could remember) are 
> up at:
>  <http://homepage.mac.com/atl/tex/gtk-dependencies.pdf>

Thank you - I thought one must fix SciTE, not GTK.

Did you try SciTE installation via Fink (unstable tree)?
Works perfectly! (But needed a whole night to compile everything...)

Grüßlis vom Hraban!
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Re: SciTE Mac

[Adam Lindsay]

Henning Hraban Ramm said this at Wed, 2 Jun 2004 20:25:39 +0200:

>Thank you - I thought one must fix SciTE, not GTK.

SciTE is pretty straightforward, once you have everything else in place.
I did have to explicitly 'make GTK2=true' though.

>Did you try SciTE installation via Fink (unstable tree)?
>Works perfectly! (But needed a whole night to compile everything...)

Does it? I've always been a bit dubious about Fink (I've used it in 10.0
and 10.1), and I think it's less and less necessary nowadays. I
particularly dislike the way it encourages full buy-in but doesn't play
well with other, non-fink ports.

cheers,
adam
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Re: SciTE Mac

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am Mittwoch, 02.06.04, um 21:55 Uhr (Europe/Zurich) schrieb Adam 
Lindsay:
>> Did you try SciTE installation via Fink (unstable tree)?
>> Works perfectly! (But needed a whole night to compile everything...)
> Does it? I've always been a bit dubious about Fink (I've used it in 
> 10.0
> and 10.1), and I think it's less and less necessary nowadays. I
> particularly dislike the way it encourages full buy-in but doesn't play
> well with other, non-fink ports.

That's true - I sticked a while, for the basic libxml2 didn't compile -
until I recognized that it stumbles over files from libxml.framework;
moved the framework away - et voilá!

(I don't understand C, so I don't always understand the messages
why some tarball won't compile.)

Oh, I wondered why there's no ConTeXt in SciTE - Fink has only version
1.5.1 instead 1.6.1...

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