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* Basic font question
@ 2020-04-23 14:00 Gerben Wierda
  2020-04-23 14:16 ` Vladimir Lomov
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On my Mac, I am trying:

\definefontfamily[mainface][rm][Optima]
\setupbodyfont[mainface,10pt]

{\bf Bold} and {\it Italic} and {\rm Regular} text.

What do I need to do to get actual bold and italics in my output?

Thx,

G

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* Re: Basic font question
  2020-04-23 14:00 Basic font question Gerben Wierda
@ 2020-04-23 14:16 ` Vladimir Lomov
  2020-04-23 14:22   ` Gerben Wierda
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From: Vladimir Lomov @ 2020-04-23 14:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hello,
** Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl> [2020-04-23 16:00:34 +0200]:

> On my Mac, I am trying:

> \definefontfamily[mainface][rm][Optima]
> \setupbodyfont[mainface,10pt]

> {\bf Bold} and {\it Italic} and {\rm Regular} text.

https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Font_Switching

> What do I need to do to get actual bold and italics in my output?

\bi == \bf\it

Or by "actual bold" you mean something different?

> Thx,

> G

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* Re: Basic font question
  2020-04-23 14:16 ` Vladimir Lomov
@ 2020-04-23 14:22   ` Gerben Wierda
  2020-04-23 14:34     ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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> On 23 Apr 2020, at 16:16, Vladimir Lomov <lomov.vl@yandex.ru> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> ** Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl> [2020-04-23 16:00:34 +0200]:
> 
>> On my Mac, I am trying:
> 
>> \definefontfamily[mainface][rm][Optima]
>> \setupbodyfont[mainface,10pt]
> 
>> {\bf Bold} and {\it Italic} and {\rm Regular} text.
> 
> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Font_Switching
> 
>> What do I need to do to get actual bold and italics in my output?
> 
> \bi == \bf\it
> 
> Or by "actual bold" you mean something different?

Yes, in my output everything is regular, there is no bold or italics text, even when I use \bf or \it

G

> 
>> Thx,
> 
>> G
> 
> ---
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> 
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* Re: Basic font question
  2020-04-23 14:22   ` Gerben Wierda
@ 2020-04-23 14:34     ` Henning Hraban Ramm
  2020-04-23 14:42       ` Gerben Wierda
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2020-04-23 14:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> Am 23.04.2020 um 16:22 schrieb Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl>:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 23 Apr 2020, at 16:16, Vladimir Lomov <lomov.vl@yandex.ru> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> ** Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl> [2020-04-23 16:00:34 +0200]:
>> 
>>> On my Mac, I am trying:
>> 
>>> \definefontfamily[mainface][rm][Optima]
>>> \setupbodyfont[mainface,10pt]
>> 
>>> {\bf Bold} and {\it Italic} and {\rm Regular} text.
>> 
>> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Font_Switching
>> 
>>> What do I need to do to get actual bold and italics in my output?
>> 
>> \bi == \bf\it
>> 
>> Or by "actual bold" you mean something different?
> 
> Yes, in my output everything is regular, there is no bold or italics text, even when I use \bf or \it

What do you get from
mtxrun --script=fonts --list --all --pattern=Optima
?

Best, Hraban
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* Re: Basic font question
  2020-04-23 14:34     ` Henning Hraban Ramm
@ 2020-04-23 14:42       ` Gerben Wierda
  2020-04-23 17:18         ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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> On 23 Apr 2020, at 16:34, Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Am 23.04.2020 um 16:22 schrieb Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl>:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 23 Apr 2020, at 16:16, Vladimir Lomov <lomov.vl@yandex.ru> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> ** Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl> [2020-04-23 16:00:34 +0200]:
>>> 
>>>> On my Mac, I am trying:
>>> 
>>>> \definefontfamily[mainface][rm][Optima]
>>>> \setupbodyfont[mainface,10pt]
>>> 
>>>> {\bf Bold} and {\it Italic} and {\rm Regular} text.
>>> 
>>> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Font_Switching
>>> 
>>>> What do I need to do to get actual bold and italics in my output?
>>> 
>>> \bi == \bf\it
>>> 
>>> Or by "actual bold" you mean something different?
>> 
>> Yes, in my output everything is regular, there is no bold or italics text, even when I use \bf or \it
> 
> What do you get from
> mtxrun --script=fonts --list --all --pattern=Optima

hermione:Export and Metapost gerben$ mtxrun --script fonts --list --all --pattern=optima
identifier         familyname   fontname           filename                           subfont   instances

optimablack        optima       optimaextrablack   /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   5
optimabold         optima       optimabold         /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   2
optimabolditalic   optima       optimabolditalic   /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   4
optimaextrablack   optima       optimaextrablack   /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   5
optimaitalic       optima       optimaitalic       /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   3
optimanormal       optima       optimaregular      /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   1
optimaregular      optima       optimaregular      /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   1

> ?
> 
> Best, Hraban
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* Re: Basic font question
  2020-04-23 14:42       ` Gerben Wierda
@ 2020-04-23 17:18         ` Henning Hraban Ramm
  2020-04-23 21:57           ` Basic font question (Optima, but no bold, no italics) Gerben Wierda
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2020-04-23 17:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> Am 23.04.2020 um 16:42 schrieb Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl>:
> 
>> 
>> On 23 Apr 2020, at 16:34, Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 23.04.2020 um 16:22 schrieb Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl>:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 23 Apr 2020, at 16:16, Vladimir Lomov <lomov.vl@yandex.ru> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> ** Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl> [2020-04-23 16:00:34 +0200]:
>>>> 
>>>>> On my Mac, I am trying:
>>>> 
>>>>> \definefontfamily[mainface][rm][Optima]
>>>>> \setupbodyfont[mainface,10pt]
>>>> 
>>>>> {\bf Bold} and {\it Italic} and {\rm Regular} text.
>>>> 
>>>> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Font_Switching
>>>> 
>>>>> What do I need to do to get actual bold and italics in my output?
>>>> 
>>>> \bi == \bf\it
>>>> 
>>>> Or by "actual bold" you mean something different?
>>> 
>>> Yes, in my output everything is regular, there is no bold or italics text, even when I use \bf or \it
>> 
>> What do you get from
>> mtxrun --script=fonts --list --all --pattern=Optima
> 
> hermione:Export and Metapost gerben$ mtxrun --script fonts --list --all --pattern=optima
> identifier         familyname   fontname           filename                           subfont   instances
> 
> optimablack        optima       optimaextrablack   /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   5
> optimabold         optima       optimabold         /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   2
> optimabolditalic   optima       optimabolditalic   /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   4
> optimaextrablack   optima       optimaextrablack   /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   5
> optimaitalic       optima       optimaitalic       /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   3
> optimanormal       optima       optimaregular      /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   1
> optimaregular      optima       optimaregular      /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   1

Hm. Here, ConTeXt only found subfont #5 until I rebuilt the font cache, then it looked like yours.

And the minimal example (plus \starttext ... \stoptext) worked.

(Latest ConTeXt on MacOS Mojave.)

Best, Hraban
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* Re: Basic font question (Optima, but no bold, no italics)
  2020-04-23 17:18         ` Henning Hraban Ramm
@ 2020-04-23 21:57           ` Gerben Wierda
  2020-04-24  0:10             ` Vladimir Lomov
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> On 23 Apr 2020, at 19:18, Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Am 23.04.2020 um 16:42 schrieb Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl>:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 23 Apr 2020, at 16:34, Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Am 23.04.2020 um 16:22 schrieb Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl>:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 23 Apr 2020, at 16:16, Vladimir Lomov <lomov.vl@yandex.ru> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> ** Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl> [2020-04-23 16:00:34 +0200]:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On my Mac, I am trying:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> \definefontfamily[mainface][rm][Optima]
>>>>>> \setupbodyfont[mainface,10pt]
>>>>> 
>>>>>> {\bf Bold} and {\it Italic} and {\rm Regular} text.
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Font_Switching
>>>>> 
>>>>>> What do I need to do to get actual bold and italics in my output?
>>>>> 
>>>>> \bi == \bf\it
>>>>> 
>>>>> Or by "actual bold" you mean something different?
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, in my output everything is regular, there is no bold or italics text, even when I use \bf or \it
>>> 
>>> What do you get from
>>> mtxrun --script=fonts --list --all --pattern=Optima
>> 
>> hermione:Export and Metapost gerben$ mtxrun --script fonts --list --all --pattern=optima
>> identifier         familyname   fontname           filename                           subfont   instances
>> 
>> optimablack        optima       optimaextrablack   /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   5
>> optimabold         optima       optimabold         /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   2
>> optimabolditalic   optima       optimabolditalic   /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   4
>> optimaextrablack   optima       optimaextrablack   /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   5
>> optimaitalic       optima       optimaitalic       /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   3
>> optimanormal       optima       optimaregular      /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   1
>> optimaregular      optima       optimaregular      /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   1
> 
> Hm. Here, ConTeXt only found subfont #5 until I rebuilt the font cache, then it looked like yours.
> 
> And the minimal example (plus \starttext ... \stoptext) worked.
> 
> (Latest ConTeXt on MacOS Mojave.)


No such luck for me. Any help welcome. I did remove the macOS font cache with sudo atsutil databases -remove and I rebooted. I am running an up to date macOS Mojave.

\starttext
\definefontfamily[mainface][rm][Optima]
\setupbodyfont[mainface,10pt]

{\bf Bold} and {\it Italic} and {\rm Regular} text.
\stoptext

results in



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Console:

$ context test.tex

resolvers       | formats | executing runner 'run luametatex format': /usr/local/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/luametatex --jobname="test" --fmt=/usr/local/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/luametatex/cont-en.fmt --lua=/usr/local/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/luametatex/cont-en.lui cont-yes.mkiv --c:currentrun=1 --c:fulljobname="./test.tex" --c:input="./test.tex" --c:kindofrun=1 --c:maxnofruns=9 --c:texmfbinpath="/usr/local/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin"
This is LuaMetaTeX, Version 2.05.01 
open source     > level 1, order 1, name 'cont-yes.mkiv'
system          > 
system          > ConTeXt  ver: 2020.04.03 10:31 MKIV beta  fmt: 2020.4.7  int: english/english
system          > 
system          > 'cont-new.mkiv' loaded
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system          > beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.mkiv
close source    > level 2, order 2, name '/usr/local/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-new.mkiv'
system          > files > jobname 'test', input './test', result 'test'
fonts           > latin modern fonts are not preloaded
languages       > language 'en' is active
open source     > level 2, order 3, name './test.tex'
fonts           > preloading latin modern fonts (second stage)
fonts           > 'fallback modern-designsize rm 12pt' is loaded
backend         > xmp > using file '/usr/local/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/lpdf-pdx.xml'
pages           > flushing realpage 1, userpage 1, subpage 1
close source    > level 2, order 3, name './test.tex'
close source    > level 1, order 3, name 'cont-yes.mkiv'

mkiv lua stats  > used config file: selfautoparent:/texmf/web2c/texmfcnf.lua
mkiv lua stats  > used cache path: /usr/local/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e
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> 
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* Re: Basic font question (Optima, but no bold, no italics)
  2020-04-23 21:57           ` Basic font question (Optima, but no bold, no italics) Gerben Wierda
@ 2020-04-24  0:10             ` Vladimir Lomov
  2020-04-24  3:19               ` kaddour kardio
  2020-04-24  6:08               ` Basic font question (Optima, but no bold, no italics) Henning Hraban Ramm
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Vladimir Lomov @ 2020-04-24  0:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hello,
** Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl> [2020-04-23 23:57:26 +0200]:

>> On 23 Apr 2020, at 19:18, Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 23.04.2020 um 16:42 schrieb Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl>:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 23 Apr 2020, at 16:34, Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net> wrote:
>>>> 

[...]

>>>> What do you get from
>>>> mtxrun --script=fonts --list --all --pattern=Optima
>>> 
>>> hermione:Export and Metapost gerben$ mtxrun --script fonts --list --all --pattern=optima
>>> identifier         familyname   fontname           filename                           subfont   instances
>>> 
>>> optimablack        optima       optimaextrablack   /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   5
>>> optimabold         optima       optimabold         /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   2
>>> optimabolditalic   optima       optimabolditalic   /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   4
>>> optimaextrablack   optima       optimaextrablack   /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   5
>>> optimaitalic       optima       optimaitalic       /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   3
>>> optimanormal       optima       optimaregular      /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   1
>>> optimaregular      optima       optimaregular      /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   1
>> 
>> Hm. Here, ConTeXt only found subfont #5 until I rebuilt the font cache, then it looked like yours.
>> 
>> And the minimal example (plus \starttext ... \stoptext) worked.
>> 
>> (Latest ConTeXt on MacOS Mojave.)

> No such luck for me. Any help welcome. I did remove the macOS font cache
> with sudo atsutil databases -remove and I rebooted. I am running an up to
> date macOS Mojave.

I think Henning Hraban Ramm meant not OS font cache (but may be including it,
I'm not a Mac OS user) but context font cache. Run

$ mtxrun --script fonts --reload --force

and try above '--list --all ...' command again and your example:

> \starttext
> \definefontfamily[mainface][rm][Optima]
> \setupbodyfont[mainface,10pt]

> {\bf Bold} and {\it Italic} and {\rm Regular} text.
> \stoptext

Hope this will resolve you issue.

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* Re: Basic font question (Optima, but no bold, no italics)
  2020-04-24  0:10             ` Vladimir Lomov
@ 2020-04-24  3:19               ` kaddour kardio
  2020-04-24  6:09                 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
  2020-04-24  6:08               ` Basic font question (Optima, but no bold, no italics) Henning Hraban Ramm
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It's noticed that Optima is a Sans Serif font.
Maybe it conflicts with MacOS way to handle fonts.


Le ven. 24 avr. 2020 à 01:10, Vladimir Lomov <lomov.vl@yandex.ru> a écrit :

> Hello,
> ** Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl> [2020-04-23 23:57:26 +0200]:
>
> >> On 23 Apr 2020, at 19:18, Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Am 23.04.2020 um 16:42 schrieb Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl>:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 23 Apr 2020, at 16:34, Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net> wrote:
> >>>>
>
> [...]
>
> >>>> What do you get from
> >>>> mtxrun --script=fonts --list --all --pattern=Optima
> >>>
> >>> hermione:Export and Metapost gerben$ mtxrun --script fonts --list
> --all --pattern=optima
> >>> identifier         familyname   fontname           filename
>                subfont   instances
> >>>
> >>> optimablack        optima       optimaextrablack
>  /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   5
> >>> optimabold         optima       optimabold
>  /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   2
> >>> optimabolditalic   optima       optimabolditalic
>  /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   4
> >>> optimaextrablack   optima       optimaextrablack
>  /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   5
> >>> optimaitalic       optima       optimaitalic
>  /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   3
> >>> optimanormal       optima       optimaregular
> /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   1
> >>> optimaregular      optima       optimaregular
> /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   1
> >>
> >> Hm. Here, ConTeXt only found subfont #5 until I rebuilt the font cache,
> then it looked like yours.
> >>
> >> And the minimal example (plus \starttext ... \stoptext) worked.
> >>
> >> (Latest ConTeXt on MacOS Mojave.)
>
> > No such luck for me. Any help welcome. I did remove the macOS font cache
> > with sudo atsutil databases -remove and I rebooted. I am running an up to
> > date macOS Mojave.
>
> I think Henning Hraban Ramm meant not OS font cache (but may be including
> it,
> I'm not a Mac OS user) but context font cache. Run
>
> $ mtxrun --script fonts --reload --force
>
> and try above '--list --all ...' command again and your example:
>
> > \starttext
> > \definefontfamily[mainface][rm][Optima]
> > \setupbodyfont[mainface,10pt]
>
> > {\bf Bold} and {\it Italic} and {\rm Regular} text.
> > \stoptext
>
> Hope this will resolve you issue.
>
> [...]
>
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* Re: Basic font question (Optima, but no bold, no italics)
  2020-04-24  0:10             ` Vladimir Lomov
  2020-04-24  3:19               ` kaddour kardio
@ 2020-04-24  6:08               ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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> Am 24.04.2020 um 02:10 schrieb Vladimir Lomov <lomov.vl@yandex.ru>:
> 
> 
> I think Henning Hraban Ramm meant not OS font cache (but may be including it,
> I'm not a Mac OS user) but context font cache. Run
> 
> $ mtxrun --script fonts --reload --force
> 
> and try above '--list --all ...' command again

No, since all the subfonts were already found, that’s not the problem.


> and your example:
> 
>> \starttext
>> \definefontfamily[mainface][rm][Optima]
>> \setupbodyfont[mainface,10pt]
> 
>> {\bf Bold} and {\it Italic} and {\rm Regular} text.
>> \stoptext

The font definition belongs before \starttext. Good if it works...

But Gerben’s example was lacking \starttext .. \stoptext – didn’t try, but that might be the culprit.

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* Re: Basic font question (Optima, but no bold, no italics)
  2020-04-24  3:19               ` kaddour kardio
@ 2020-04-24  6:09                 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
  2020-04-24  6:48                   ` Basic font question (Optima, but no bold, no italics). Standalone ConTeXt does not work. TeX Live 2019 works Gerben Wierda
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> Am 24.04.2020 um 05:19 schrieb kaddour kardio <kaddourkardio@gmail.com>:
> 
> It's noticed that Optima is a Sans Serif font.
> Maybe it conflicts with MacOS way to handle fonts. 

No, ConTeXt doesn’t care what kind of font you define as rm/ss/tt, and the OS has no say in that.

Best, Hraban

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* Re: Basic font question (Optima, but no bold, no italics). Standalone ConTeXt does not work. TeX Live 2019 works
  2020-04-24  6:09                 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
@ 2020-04-24  6:48                   ` Gerben Wierda
  2020-04-24  6:53                     ` Wolfgang Schuster
  2020-04-24  6:54                     ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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With Arial:

\definefontfamily[mainface][rm][Arial]
\setupbodyfont[mainface,10pt]



with Optima:

\definefontfamily[mainface][rm][Optima]
\setupbodyfont[mainface,10pt]


It doesn’t matter if the font statements are before or after \starttext

Then I thought, let’s test some other things. I logged in as another user, and used ConTeXt from TeX Live 2019:


It seems to be that on my system, the standalone installed ConTeXt does not work with Optima, but the TeX Live installed one does.

G



> On 24 Apr 2020, at 08:09, Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> Am 24.04.2020 um 05:19 schrieb kaddour kardio <kaddourkardio@gmail.com>:
>> 
>> It's noticed that Optima is a Sans Serif font.
>> Maybe it conflicts with MacOS way to handle fonts. 
> 
> No, ConTeXt doesn’t care what kind of font you define as rm/ss/tt, and the OS has no say in that.
> 
> Best, Hraban
> 
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* Re: Basic font question (Optima, but no bold, no italics). Standalone ConTeXt does not work. TeX Live 2019 works
  2020-04-24  6:48                   ` Basic font question (Optima, but no bold, no italics). Standalone ConTeXt does not work. TeX Live 2019 works Gerben Wierda
@ 2020-04-24  6:53                     ` Wolfgang Schuster
  2020-04-24  7:21                       ` Gerben Wierda
  2020-04-24  6:54                     ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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Gerben Wierda schrieb am 24.04.2020 um 08:48:
> With Arial:
>
> \definefontfamily[mainface][rm][Arial]
> \setupbodyfont[mainface,10pt]
>
>
> with Optima:
>
> \definefontfamily[mainface][rm][Optima]
> \setupbodyfont[mainface,10pt]
>
> It doesn’t matter if the font statements are before or after \starttext
>
> Then I thought, let’s test some other things. I logged in as another 
> user, and used ConTeXt from TeX Live 2019:
>
> It seems to be that on my system, the standalone installed ConTeXt 
> does not work with Optima, but the TeX Live installed one does.

Can you try this:

\definefontfamily [mainface] [rm] [Optima]
   [it=optimaitalic,
    bf=optimabold,
    bi=optimabolditalic]

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* Re: Basic font question (Optima, but no bold, no italics). Standalone ConTeXt does not work. TeX Live 2019 works
  2020-04-24  6:48                   ` Basic font question (Optima, but no bold, no italics). Standalone ConTeXt does not work. TeX Live 2019 works Gerben Wierda
  2020-04-24  6:53                     ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2020-04-24  6:54                     ` Henning Hraban Ramm
  2020-04-24  7:19                       ` ConTeXt beta issue? Was: Basic font question (Optima, but no bold, no italics). Standalone ConTeXt (beta) " Gerben Wierda
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> Am 24.04.2020 um 08:48 schrieb Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl>:
> 
> Then I thought, let’s test some other things. I logged in as another user, and used ConTeXt from TeX Live 2019:
> 
> <PastedGraphic-3.png>
> It seems to be that on my system, the standalone installed ConTeXt does not work with Optima, but the TeX Live installed one does.

So what’s your ConTeXt version?

context --version
current version: 2020.01.30 14:13

luatex --version
This is LuaTeX, Version 1.11.1 (TeX Live 2020/dev)


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* ConTeXt beta issue? Was: Basic font question (Optima, but no bold, no italics). Standalone ConTeXt (beta) does not work. TeX Live 2019 works
  2020-04-24  6:54                     ` Henning Hraban Ramm
@ 2020-04-24  7:19                       ` Gerben Wierda
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As per the fuller console output I included (where you can find all the details of the run as put out by ConTeXt):

This is LuaMetaTeX, Version 2.05.01 
open source     > level 1, order 1, name 'cont-yes.mkiv'
system          > 
system          > ConTeXt  ver: 2020.04.03 10:31 MKIV beta  fmt: 2020.4.7  int: english/english
system          > 
system          > 'cont-new.mkiv' loaded

If the standalone is used, it doesn’t work. If TeX Live 2019 is used, it does work.

Note, there is no ‘luatex’ command in the standalone. And I get a different output from the --version command for context:

$ context --version
mtx-context     | ConTeXt Process Management 1.03
mtx-context     |
mtx-context     | main context file: /usr/local/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/context.mkiv
mtx-context     | current version: 2019.07.24 11:31
mtx-context     | main context file: /usr/local/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/context.mkxl
mtx-context     | current version: 2020.02.17 19:36

The version differences probably from

system          > beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.mkiv

I seem to be running a beta. I seem to recall I installed that because Hans patched something, but I am uncertain. Hans?

G

> On 24 Apr 2020, at 08:54, Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> Am 24.04.2020 um 08:48 schrieb Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl>:
>> 
>> Then I thought, let’s test some other things. I logged in as another user, and used ConTeXt from TeX Live 2019:
>> 
>> <PastedGraphic-3.png>
>> It seems to be that on my system, the standalone installed ConTeXt does not work with Optima, but the TeX Live installed one does.
> 
> So what’s your ConTeXt version?
> 
> context --version
> current version: 2020.01.30 14:13
> 
> luatex --version
> This is LuaTeX, Version 1.11.1 (TeX Live 2020/dev)
> 
> 
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* Re: Basic font question (Optima, but no bold, no italics). Standalone ConTeXt does not work. TeX Live 2019 works
  2020-04-24  6:53                     ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2020-04-24  7:21                       ` Gerben Wierda
  2020-04-24  7:37                         ` Thomas A. Schmitz
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> On 24 Apr 2020, at 08:53, Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Can you try this:
> 
> \definefontfamily [mainface] [rm] [Optima]
>   [it=optimaitalic,
>    bf=optimabold,
>    bi=optimabolditalic]

I altready did that earlier as per the Wiki information (did not report it) and just tried again. No difference.

G


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@ 2020-04-24  7:37                         ` Thomas A. Schmitz
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> On 24. Apr 2020, at 09:21, Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl> wrote:
> 
> 
> I altready did that earlier as per the Wiki information (did not report it) and just tried again. No difference.

Steps to happiness:

1. Extract the ttc font to ttf
2. Copy the ttf files to your local texmf directory
3. reload the font cache
4. enrich your vocabulary by learning the words “thank you”
5. never have to deal with stupid people who didn’t read all 10,000 lines of the log file you posted
6. profit!

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