How to indent a paragraph

How to indent a paragraph

[List Mail]

I know this is a newbie question. However I have read the fine manual
(see below), and I still don't know how to indent a paragraph under
ConTeXt. The following code does NOT produce an indented paragraph.
Can somebody tell me what's wrong?

% Begin ConTeXt code
\starttext

\setupinterlinespace[2]
\setupindenting[medium]

The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.  The quick brown fox
jumps over the lazy dog.  The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.

\stoptext
% End ConTeXt code
% processed using TeXExec version 6.2.0

Also, could somebody point me to where I can download the latest
version of the ConTeXt manual. The best I could find using Google's
filetype:pdf site:pragma-ade.com is a document named "cont-eni.pdf".

Re: How to indent a paragraph

[Wolfgang Schuster]

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2007/3/30, List Mail <avatoon@gmail.com>:
>
> I know this is a newbie question. However I have read the fine manual
> (see below), and I still don't know how to indent a paragraph under
> ConTeXt. The following code does NOT produce an indented paragraph.
> Can somebody tell me what's wrong?
>
> % Begin ConTeXt code
> \starttext
>
> \setupinterlinespace[2]
> \setupindenting[medium]


Hi,

you need a yes in setupindenting to enable it.

\setupindenting[yes,medium]

The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.  The quick brown fox
> jumps over the lazy dog.  The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.
>
> \stoptext
> % End ConTeXt code
> % processed using TeXExec version 6.2.0
>
> Also, could somebody point me to where I can download the latest
> version of the ConTeXt manual. The best I could find using Google's
> filetype:pdf site:pragma-ade.com is a document named "cont-eni.pdf".


The beginner manual:

http://pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/mp-cb-en.pdf

The big manual:

http://pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/cont-enp.pdf

And finally all manuals can be found at the following link:

http://pragma-ade.com/overview.htm

The nice way is to use the showcase (a pdf with links to all
documents, should only be used with fast internet connections).

http://pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf

Wolfgang

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Re: How to indent a paragraph

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Mar 30, 2007, at 12:06 PM, List Mail wrote:

> I know this is a newbie question. However I have read the fine manual
> (see below), and I still don't know how to indent a paragraph under
> ConTeXt. The following code does NOT produce an indented paragraph.
> Can somebody tell me what's wrong?
>
> % Begin ConTeXt code
> \starttext
>
> \setupinterlinespace[2]
> \setupindenting[medium]
>
> The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.  The quick brown fox
> jumps over the lazy dog.  The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.
>
> \stoptext
> % End ConTeXt code
> % processed using TeXExec version 6.2.0
>

wiki, meet new user List Mail (wow, that's a bizarre name)

new user List Mail, meet the wiki: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/FAQ#. 
5Csetupindenting.5Bmedium.5D_doesn.27t_work.3F

> Also, could somebody point me to where I can download the latest
> version of the ConTeXt manual. The best I could find using Google's
> filetype:pdf site:pragma-ade.com is a document named "cont-eni.pdf".

cont-eni.pdf is the  latest version of the manual.

HTH

Thomas

Re: How to indent a paragraph

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi List Mail,


On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 18:06:57 +0800, List Mail wrote:
> I know this is a newbie question. However I have read the fine manual
> (see below), and I still don't know how to indent a paragraph under
> ConTeXt. The following code does NOT produce an indented paragraph.
> Can somebody tell me what's wrong?
> 
> % Begin ConTeXt code
> \starttext
> 
> \setupinterlinespace[2]
> \setupindenting[medium]

change this line (above) to

\setupindenting[medium,yes]

> The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.  The quick brown fox
> jumps over the lazy dog.  The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.
> 
> \stoptext
> % End ConTeXt code
> % processed using TeXExec version 6.2.0
> 
> Also, could somebody point me to where I can download the latest
> version of the ConTeXt manual. The best I could find using Google's
> filetype:pdf site:pragma-ade.com is a document named "cont-eni.pdf".


Yes, this is *the manual*.
You will find the whole family ("all manuals") here:

http://www.pragma-ade.com/document-1.htm


Best,
Steffen

Re: How to indent a paragraph

[List Mail]

Thanks to all that replied. Comments inline.

On 3/30/07, Steffen Wolfrum <context@st.estfiles.de> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 18:06:57 +0800, List Mail wrote:
> > I know this is a newbie question. However I have read the fine manual
> > (see below), and I still don't know how to indent a paragraph under
> > ConTeXt. The following code does NOT produce an indented paragraph.
> > Can somebody tell me what's wrong?
> >
> > % Begin ConTeXt code
> > \starttext
> >
> > \setupinterlinespace[2]
> > \setupindenting[medium]
>
> change this line (above) to
>
> \setupindenting[medium,yes]

Well, yes, this works. However, this isn't documented in *the manual*.

> > The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.  The quick brown fox
> > jumps over the lazy dog.  The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.
> >
> > \stoptext
> > % End ConTeXt code
> > % processed using TeXExec version 6.2.0
> >
> > Also, could somebody point me to where I can download the latest
> > version of the ConTeXt manual. The best I could find using Google's
> > filetype:pdf site:pragma-ade.com is a document named "cont-eni.pdf".
>
> Yes, this is *the manual*.

Which says (on raw PDF page no. 65):

In your source file you can best use an empty line between paragraphs.
This increases readability and it makes the typing of \par at the end
of each paragraph obsolete. Indentation at every new paragraph is
obtained by:

\setupindenting[medium]

> You will find the whole family ("all manuals") here:
>
> http://www.pragma-ade.com/document-1.htm

If I remember correctly that was among the top hits I got from Google
in my search for ConTeXt documentation (I forgot the exact key words I
used). But as seems obvious from my present case, the documentation
appears to be out-of-date.

So is there a list of more up-to-date documentation that I can
download and read off-line? (My Internet connection at home is
limited, although for downloading I have access to high-speed Internet
cafes.) An up-to-date "cheat sheet" containing all commands and
options or arguments would be fine.

Re: How to indent a paragraph

[Mari Voipio]

List Mail wrote:
> Well, yes, this works. However, this isn't documented in *the manual*.

This is why there's an Errata page in the wiki for both the full manual 
and the "Excursion". All input there is very valuable; it seems that the 
problem you found isn't entered yet...

The Errata page for Manual: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXtEN_Errata

The Errata page for Excursion:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Typos_in_beginners_manual


> An up-to-date "cheat sheet" containing all commands and
> options or arguments would be fine.

I frankly don't know if it exists with all distributions and you don't 
state what you use, but I recently found out that my WinConTeXt includes 
a stand-alone version of TeXShow, which is very hand for this kind of 
use - and I think the program is more up to date than any paper manuals; 
the developers will be able to tell, if they make a new one for a new 
distribution of ConTeXt or just occasionally. Searching for file texshow 
might find yours (no luck on my Mac...); the online version is at 
http://texshow.contextgarden.net/

TeXShow was also discussed at the recent ConTeXt meeting and the people 
present promised to help adding explanations in there, so it should get 
better and better.

If you happen to use Emacs (any OS will do), the creator of TexShow, 
Patrick, also has a texshow browser for it, called etexshow, so you can 
easily check stuff while you write. I found it quite handy as long as I 
used Emacs for editor and I actually somewhat miss it now that I've gone 
over to WinConTeXt and SciTe.
The etexshow can be downloaded at http://levana.de/emacs/ - however, I 
don't know how up to date it is, Patrick will be able to answer that 
question better.


THIS might be what you were asking for:
There's a "quick reference" file that can be handy as augmentation to 
other manuals: <http://www.pragma-ade.com/show-man-10.htm> or, if your 
preferred language is English, directly here: 
<http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/qrcs/setup-en.pdf> - at least the 
English version is *very* new, dated on March 19, 2007, so it should be 
quite up to date [probably too up-to-date for my old ConTeXt 
distribution...].



Mari
(Who's found her share of problems now in errata; it IS sometimes 
frustrating!)

Re: How to indent a paragraph

[Taco Hoekwater]

Mari Voipio wrote:
> I frankly don't know if it exists with all distributions and you don't 
> state what you use, but I recently found out that my WinConTeXt includes 
> a stand-alone version of TeXShow, which is very hand for this kind of 
> use - and I think the program is more up to date than any paper manuals; 
> the developers will be able to tell, if they make a new one for a new 
> distribution of ConTeXt or just occasionally. Searching for file texshow 
> might find yours (no luck on my Mac...); the online version is at 
> http://texshow.contextgarden.net/

The standalone texshow is by me. It is a perl/Tk script, so if you
have a proper perl+Tk installed on your system, you should be able
to run it.

Both the texshows: Patrick's web version and my standalone version are
always up-to-date with Hans' XML files. By definition, since they use
the XML files as their primary data source (barring errors or
omissions in the XML files, of course).

> THIS might be what you were asking for:
> There's a "quick reference" file that can be handy as augmentation to 
> other manuals: <http://www.pragma-ade.com/show-man-10.htm> or, if your 
> preferred language is English, directly here: 
> <http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/qrcs/setup-en.pdf> - at least the 
> English version is *very* new, dated on March 19, 2007, so it should be 
> quite up to date [probably too up-to-date for my old ConTeXt 
> distribution...].

I am do not know if the qrcs are always up-to-date, but I know they are
periodically regenerated by Hans himself, using those same XML files
as source.


Best, Taco

Re: How to indent a paragraph

[Patrick Gundlach]

[...]

>
> If you happen to use Emacs (any OS will do), the creator of TexShow, 
> Patrick, also has a texshow browser for it, called etexshow, so you can 
> easily check stuff while you write. I found it quite handy as long as I 
> used Emacs for editor and I actually somewhat miss it now that I've gone 
> over to WinConTeXt and SciTe.
> The etexshow can be downloaded at http://levana.de/emacs/ - however, I 
> don't know how up to date it is, Patrick will be able to answer that 
> question better.

I'll have a look at it over easter holidays.

Patrick

-- 
ConTeXt wiki and more: http://contextgarden.net

Re: How to indent a paragraph

[List Mail]

On 3/31/07, Mari Voipio <mari.voipio@iki.fi> wrote:
> List Mail wrote:

[snip]

> > An up-to-date "cheat sheet" containing all commands and
> > options or arguments would be fine.
>
> I frankly don't know if it exists with all distributions and you don't
> state what you use, but I recently found out that my WinConTeXt includes
> a stand-alone version of TeXShow, which is very hand for this kind of
> use - and I think the program is more up to date than any paper manuals;
> the developers will be able to tell, if they make a new one for a new
> distribution of ConTeXt or just occasionally. Searching for file texshow
> might find yours (no luck on my Mac...); the online version is at
> http://texshow.contextgarden.net/

Apparently the online texshow hasn't caught up with my problem. It
still states that paragraphs can be indented with:

\setupindenting
Syntax
\setupindenting[...,...,...]
[...,...,...]	none small medium big next first normal odd even dimension

Or maybe the documentation just isn't clear on what options to give the command.

[snip]

> There's a "quick reference" file that can be handy as augmentation to
> other manuals: <http://www.pragma-ade.com/show-man-10.htm> or, if your
> preferred language is English, directly here:
> <http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/qrcs/setup-en.pdf> - at least the
> English version is *very* new, dated on March 19, 2007, so it should be
> quite up to date [probably too up-to-date for my old ConTeXt
> distribution...].

Thanks.

Re: How to indent a paragraph

[Mari Voipio]

List Mail wrote:
> Also, could somebody point me to where I can download the latest
> version of the ConTeXt manual. The best I could find using Google's
> filetype:pdf site:pragma-ade.com is a document named "cont-eni.pdf".

That's the interactive English full manual. The Pragma website IS 
sometimes a bit tricky to navigate, so I use this handy wiki listing 
instead whenever I need to download a manual either for screen or paper 
use: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Official_ConTeXt_Documentation


For print use I'd suggest taking the beginner's manual and then probably 
cont-enp.pdf, assuming English is your preferred language. These are the 
two I've shread to threads, although nowadays I usually check the wiki 
first, it often gives an answer faster.


Hope this helps,
Mari

Re: How to indent a paragraph

[Mari Voipio]

List Mail wrote:

> \setupindenting[medium]

Sanjoy's nifty 'helloworld' document at 
<http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Hello_world> has this:
\setupindenting[medium, yes]

It might be the missing 'yes' that's your problem. At least in the Live 
ConTeXt at http://live.contextgarden.net/ it makes all the difference; 
without 'yes', no indentation. With 'yes', first line gets indented.


(Hmm... I should probably also take a good look at this longer "Hello 
world", I could definitely learn a thing or two there...)



Mari
(who can't do much without manuals and the wiki...)