framing columns

framing columns

[Hans van der Meer]

A nasty problem arises when I try to enclose columns into a  
framedtext and at the same time want to typeset it narrower inside  
the frame.

1. framedtext: columns will not typeset, simplecolumns does
2. narrower:  columns honors narrowing, simplecolumns does not.

Now I am caught between two impossibilities.
Is it an option that simplecolumns will also be honoring  
startnarrower..stopnarrower?
Is there another, simple solution?

yours sincerely,
dr. H. van der Meer

Re: framing columns

[Hans Hagen]

Hans van der Meer wrote:
> A nasty problem arises when I try to enclose columns into a  
> framedtext and at the same time want to typeset it narrower inside  
> the frame.
>
> 1. framedtext: columns will not typeset, simplecolumns does
> 2. narrower:  columns honors narrowing, simplecolumns does not.
>
> Now I am caught between two impossibilities.
> Is it an option that simplecolumns will also be honoring  
> startnarrower..stopnarrower?
> Is there another, simple solution?
>   
\framed[width=\hsize]\bgroup
\startnarrower
    \setlocalhsize \hsize\localhsize 
    \startsimplecolumns
        \input tufte \par
        \input tufte\par
    \stopsimplecolumns
\stopnarrower
\egroup

- when no width is given, framed will to to find the best fit 
- you set the hsize according to the narrower before the columns 

can you put that in the wiki? 

Hans 


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Re: framing columns

[Hans van der Meer]

Hans,

Thanks for your suggestion, but in the meantime I worked hard to find  
a solution and now do a framedtext within a framed text.
Calculating the width and height of the inner framedtext from the  
surrounding one's offset and the margin wanted.  After puzzling out  
that "location=middle" can put the inner framedtext centered it seems  
to work for me. But it is a bit more work than the solution you are  
showing me here; surely I will try your suggestion because it seems  
so much simpler. I must admit I would not have found out on my own  
about the two uses of \hsize.

As for your question: "can you put that in the wiki?" I have not the  
faintest idea of how to put things in a "wiki". Not even do I  
understand the phenomenon "wiki".

yours sincerely,
dr. H. van der Meer



On Feb 28, 2006, at 2:42, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Hans van der Meer wrote:
>> A nasty problem arises when I try to enclose columns into a
>> framedtext and at the same time want to typeset it narrower inside
>> the frame.
>>
>> 1. framedtext: columns will not typeset, simplecolumns does
>> 2. narrower:  columns honors narrowing, simplecolumns does not.
>>
>> Now I am caught between two impossibilities.
>> Is it an option that simplecolumns will also be honoring
>> startnarrower..stopnarrower?
>> Is there another, simple solution?
>>
> \framed[width=\hsize]\bgroup
> \startnarrower
>     \setlocalhsize \hsize\localhsize
>     \startsimplecolumns
>         \input tufte \par
>         \input tufte\par
>     \stopsimplecolumns
> \stopnarrower
> \egroup
>
> - when no width is given, framed will to to find the best fit
> - you set the hsize according to the narrower before the columns
>
> can you put that in the wiki?
>
> Hans
>
>
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