From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/39942 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Giulio Bertellini" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: ConTEXt - produced book __ about typesetting, as an art, to print "Beautiful books" Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 23:08:14 +0200 Message-ID: <65fd10790804081408j7e5c92efn804292949a923fd0@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1144267479==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1207688991 21188 80.91.229.12 (8 Apr 2008 21:09:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 21:09:51 +0000 (UTC) To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Apr 08 23:10:22 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JjL5A-0006d2-Tw for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2008 23:10:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D55361FC5A; Tue, 8 Apr 2008 23:09:38 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 20580-02-6; Tue, 8 Apr 2008 23:08:54 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C1961FBAC; Tue, 8 Apr 2008 23:08:54 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA35B1FBAC for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2008 23:08:52 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 20580-02-5 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2008 23:08:17 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from el-out-1112.google.com (el-out-1112.google.com [209.85.162.176]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26C921FA2B for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2008 23:08:16 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id y26so1644837ele.8 for ; Tue, 08 Apr 2008 14:08:15 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.141.171.6 with SMTP id y6mr2290916rvo.84.1207688894315; Tue, 08 Apr 2008 14:08:14 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.141.19.11 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Apr 2008 14:08:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:39942 Archived-At: --===============1144267479== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_26114_7551741.1207688894284" ------=_Part_26114_7551741.1207688894284 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sitting in a Paris restaurant, equipped with WI/FI and after a couple of wine glasses. I really like your work. It would be interesting to see the sources and to learn the tricks (your used). The look is great. Thanks to Hans for the beautiful gift to the World. One final comment. I think the typesetting is fine, technically speaking, but, overall, the spacing is too tight. It is not relaxing. Readers should be more confortable. WHAT IS THE THINKING OF THIS COMMUNITY. I am not a typesetter, but setting type, good typesetting is difficult to express. It transcends words. It's about feelings and type. Personally, I think that Prof.Dr.med. should be typeset differently. How ca= n we accept Prof, Dr. Med, with not spaces in between, perhaps thin spaces. Congratulations, however. Giulio Bertellini On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 3:16 PM, J=F6rg Hagmann wrote: > Dear list members, > > My biochemistry textbook has been published by orell f=FCssli as an UTB > book. I would like to thank all the members of this list, and Hans in > particular, for their help (acknowledgements in the "Thank you" section > of the book as well). > > You'll find a few sample pages under: > www.ogbasel.ch/context.html (2.5MB) > > Page and margin sizes prescribed by the publisher. The pages illustrate: > > p. 7: The use of inmargin text. > p. 79: a "vignette", in the margin and partially in the text area. > p. 110: The height of some margin figures was large, necessitating > manual adjustments. > p. 145: A framed box and a wide table. The large number of enumerations, > figures, frames etc. made some typographical sins inevitable (e.g. last > line on this page). > p. 155: textbody and margin completely filled > p. 190: I include this page for Willi and Thomas > p. 235: Some chapters end with what students really need to know (red > background). This is the end of the chapter on nutrition > p. 239: The "Toolbox" contains framed figures without a legend. > > -- > Prof.Dr.med. J=F6rg Hagmann-Zanolari > Institute of Biochemistry and Genetics > Centre of Biomedicine, University of Basel > Mattenstrasse 28 > CH-4058 Basel > Switzerland > Phone +41 (0)61 267 3565 > > > _________________________________________________________________________= __________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > _________________________________________________________________________= __________ > ------=_Part_26114_7551741.1207688894284 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sitting in a Paris restaurant, equipped with WI/FI and after a couple of wi= ne glasses.

I really like your work. It would be interes= ting to see the sources and to learn the tricks (your used).
The = look is great.

Thanks to Hans for the beautiful gift to the World.&nbs= p;

One final comment. I think the typesetting is f= ine, technically speaking, but, overall, the spacing is too tight. It is no= t relaxing.
Readers should be more confortable. WHAT IS THE THINKING OF THIS COMMU= NITY.

I am not a typesetter, but setting type, goo= d typesetting is difficult to express. It transcends words. It's about = feelings and type.


Personally, I think that Prof.Dr.me= d. should be typeset differently. How can we accept Prof, Dr. Med, with not= spaces in between, perhaps thin spaces.
 

Congratulations, however.


Giulio Be= rtellini

On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 3:= 16 PM, J=F6rg Hagmann <joerg.hagmann@unibas.ch> wrote:
Dear list members,

My biochemistry textbook has been published by orell f=FCssli as an UTB
book. I would like to thank all the members of this list, and Hans in
particular, for their help (acknowledgements in the "Thank you" s= ection
of the book as well).

You'll find a few sample pages under:
www.ogbase= l.ch/context.html (2.5MB)

Page and margin sizes prescribed by the publisher. The pages illustrate:
p. 7: The use of inmargin text.
p. 79: a "vignette", in the margin and partially in the text area= .
p. 110: The height of some margin figures  was  large, necessitat= ing
manual adjustments.
p. 145: A framed box and a wide table. The large number of enumerations, figures, frames etc. made some  typographical sins inevitable (e.g. la= st
line on this page).
p. 155: textbody and margin completely filled
p. 190: I include this page for Willi and Thomas
p. 235: Some chapters end with what students really need to know (red
background). This is the end of the chapter on nutrition
p. 239: The "Toolbox" contains framed figures without a legend.
--
Prof.Dr.med. J=F6rg Hagmann-Zanolari
Institute of Biochemistry and Genetics
Centre of Biomedicine, University of Basel
Mattenstrasse 28
CH-4058 Basel
Switzerland
Phone +41 (0)61 267 3565

___________________________________________________________________________= ________
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki!

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