From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/40054 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Yue Wang" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: new version luatex / mkiv Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:49:43 +0800 Message-ID: <68bfdc900804110249v62afccc9me2b36a5ab77baa41@mail.gmail.com> References: <47FE2FB9.3020305@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1207907726 16811 80.91.229.12 (11 Apr 2008 09:55:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 09:55:26 +0000 (UTC) To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Apr 11 11:55:59 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JkFvz-0002IB-HJ for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:52:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 092B21FC3E; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:52:00 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 09066-03-15; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:51:18 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE8321FBEB; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:50:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB511FBCB for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:50:35 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 09410-01-16 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:49:57 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.156]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4731FCAF for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:49:43 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so320892fga.8 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 02:49:43 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.86.3.4 with SMTP id 4mr5241367fgc.69.1207907383641; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 02:49:43 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.86.87.1 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 02:49:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:40054 Archived-At: On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Maurice Diamantini wrote: > > Le 10 avr. 08 =E0 17:18, Hans Hagen a =E9crit : > > > > This release of is rather substantial: no longer is metaposts called, > > but mplib is used instead. This bring down metapost runtime and > > conversion to nearly zero. The user interface is the same, but the > > implementation is different. > > What will allow mplib in luatex the future? > - Will it be only a way to write Metapost code without having > to call external system program (better performance)? Now mp code is processed by luatex through the mplib without to call the external system program. > - Or will it be possible to write figures in lua instead of Metapost? > (would be great!!) I think so, especially when dealing with non-metapost data ( for example, use lua to parse/process the data and push them to the mplib). Lua is more like a programming language than metapost, new users will learn it with less pain, of course. I strongly suggest there should be such a interface. but Taco said such lua interface might never exist:( Last year, Hans made a new math interface like TI calculator based on Lua to show it is powerful. I think such Lua like metapost interface can also exist even it is somewhat incomplete(neglect the linear equation solver, for instance). > > > Another question about ConTeXt mkiv installation > > Is possible to use a local full ConTeXt distrib (with basic fonts, > mplib, lua) **without interference** with existant texlive distribution > (i.e. without using all the *_TEX environment variables thanks to > ConTeXt mkiv ?) > Of course. try the minimals. > I'd like to maintain some "hot" > > Thank you very much > > -- Maurice > > > > > Tomorrow (or so) taco will make releasenotes. > > > > Hans > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > > tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com > > | www.pragma-pod.nl > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > ______________________________________________________________________= _____________ > > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an > > entry to the Wiki! > > > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg= -context > > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ______________________________________________________________________= _____________ > > ________________________________________________________________________= ___________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry t= o the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-c= ontext > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ________________________________________________________________________= ___________ > ___________________________________________________________________________= ________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-cont= ext webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________= ________