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> > > > I have tested Chinese translation of Universal Declaration of Human Right= s > available at http://www.un.org/chinese/hr/issue/udhr.htm . > > 1. > ........................\**thedefinedfont** =C8=CF > ........................\glue 0.0 plus 20.0 %% line break should not occu= r > ........................\**thedefinedfont** =A3=AC % U+FF0C > ........................\glue 0.0 plus 20.0 > ........................\**thedefinedfont** =C4=CB > > Line break is prohibited before U+FF0C (fullwidth comma) > but current beta inserts glue. This should be corrected. > The same for U+FF1B (fullwidth semicolon). right > > > 2. > ........................\**thedefinedfont** =D3=C9 > ........................\penalty 10000 > ........................\glue 0.0 plus 20.0 > ........................\**thedefinedfont** =A1=A2 % U+3001 > ........................\penalty 10000 %% this should be deleted > ........................\glue 0.0 minus 5.0 > ........................\glue 0.0 plus 20.0 > ........................\**thedefinedfont** =D5=FD > > Line break is allowed after U+3001 (ideographic comma), > so \penalty10000 after U+3001 should not be inserted. umm... maybe... I am not sure... > > The same for U+3002 (ideographic full stop). right > > > 3. > I don't know much about Chinese typesetting, but IMO > it would be better if these full width CJK punctuations > is forced to half width and 0.5em glue is inserted after > those characters. > We can use the bounding box information of these punctuations. > > Dohyun Kim > > _________________________________________________________________________= __________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > _________________________________________________________________________= __________ > --00163646cef41aa3fb04633de861 Content-Type: text/html; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

2009/2/19 Dohyun Kim &= lt;nomosnomos@gmail.com>
2009/2/18 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:
> Hi,
>
> There is a new beta: a few additions to math as well as a prelude to n= ew cjk
> support, now to be triggered explicitly (since the methods differ too = much
> we cannot share them)
>
> \setscript[hangul]
>
> \setscript[hanzi]    % arthur, is this the right name?
>

I have tested Chinese translation of Universal Declaration of Human R= ights
available at http://www.un.org/chinese/hr/issue/udhr.htm .

1.
........................\**thedefinedfont** =C8=CF
........................\glue 0.0 plus 20.0 %% line break should not occur<= br> ........................\**thedefinedfont** =A3=AC % U+FF0C
........................\glue 0.0 plus 20.0
........................\**thedefinedfont** =C4=CB

Line break is prohibited before U+FF0C (fullwidth comma)
but current beta inserts glue.  This should be corrected.
The same for U+FF1B (fullwidth semicolon).

=
right
 
=

2.
........................\**thedefinedfont** =D3=C9
........................\penalty 10000
........................\glue 0.0 plus 20.0
........................\**thedefinedfont** =A1=A2 % U+3001
........................\penalty 10000 %% this should be deleted
........................\glue 0.0 minus 5.0
........................\glue 0.0 plus 20.0
........................\**thedefinedfont** =D5=FD

Line break is allowed after U+3001 (ideographic comma),
so \penalty10000 after U+3001 should not be inserted.

=
umm... maybe... I am not sure...
 

The same for U+3002 (ideographic full stop).

right
 


3.
I don't know much about Chinese typesetting, but IMO
it would be better if these full width CJK punctuations
is forced to half width and 0.5em glue is inserted after
those characters.

We can use the boundi= ng box information of these punctuations.
 

Dohyun Kim
______________________________= _____________________________________________________
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